Hard Slam! (courtesy of Retro Rides...)

[penski]

lol i like it and that saxo looks mint

ow am 16 and i like modded car's
30mm thats nothing..
they is three gt5 turbo's going around here lower then that

Got proof?

Safe bet that all of them have their sills 6" from the ground and a bodged-on Laguna splitter scraping it at the front.

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[Phal]

Broken? :/

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Yeah like too many americans sat on it :/ I do like the wheels though and I like A8s and S8s

Wouldnt mind an S8 actually

 

[fRostiE]

enjoy !

 

[A8VIP]

Howdy folks, thought I'd pop in to clarify a few points made about my Audi.

Firstly, I'm not here to justify anything I have done to the A8, its my car, I chose to modify it, I like it, I didn't build it to pander to anyone else's tastes, and I certainly don't need gratification/permission from anyone.

If you like it, many thanks, if you don't, that's your choice, and I respect that.

However, there does appear that some of your are suffering from blinkeredness, some are misinformed, and some are just plain rude.

Whilst I'm not getting in a slanging match and am not the sort of person to attack anyone personally, here's a few informed and educated responses for you...

Horrible. Wheels are too big, and the wheels have really dated the car.

A8's can look nice. This one does not.

What does he do when he's pushing on along an A road and hits a compression or something? Pull over and call a tow truck as he watches his oil gush out the sump?

The wheels are 19's, not 20's as some of you have assumed, (I don't see anywhere on my or Penski's posts that say they are 20"). That's just 1" over stock (the A8 had options of 16" thru 18" wheel from the factory).

The style of wheel also echos the factory stock A8 monoblock wheel, the reason why I chose it, which was available up to 2003. So quite how it can 'date' the car is beyond me!

There's no problem with the sump, since its not the lowest point of the car, as I stated originally. Actually the sump is still a good 5 inches from the ground, and is also protected by the belly pan.

Looks okay, but... it's totally stupid. Can it really drive along the road at a decent speed without bouncing all over the place?

Exactly why would it 'bounce all over the place'? I've fitted coilovers, which stiffen the ride, whilst maintaining a degree of damped suspension movement. The suspension is tuned to the car, and will absorb bumps and ruts in the road whilst maintaining less suspension movement. I've had motorway speeds and above (on a test track officer) without any issue.

Annoylingly that was a nice car before it got wrecked by that chav

*looks for Burberry cap* A Chav, you say? I can't see anything on this car that would associate me with such a person. You have about as much foundation for calling me a Chav, as I have calling you a Retard. You may want to check the correct definition of the word before applying it to your posts.

Maybe chav is the wrong word. I kind of wanted to use the word ***** but that isnt really what i mean either.

Oh, you again, I refer you to my previous post....

Why on earth would anyone change their opinions. This isn't court you know.

For me that car is useless. If i wanted a comfy car I would get an A8 and keep it standard. If i wanted something that looked nice and handling well i wouldn't get an A8.

This seems to be lost somewhere in the middle with no area of excellence, infact the ride and handling must be awful now. The only thing it may have islooks, which of course is subjective.

By definition, coilovers IMPROVE the handling of any car. Before, whislt motorways cruising was fine, put the A8 anywhere near a corner, and it would roll so much I'd have to repaint the doorhandles. Now the car remains flat and smooth in the twisty stuff.

Yes, there is a decrease in ride comfort, but it is neglegable. Its not crashy or overly firm.

I do like the way it looks, being a lover of the VIP look.

Sure, it must be abysmal to drive, but I don't think that is the owners No1 priority.......

Its not abysmal to drive, its way better than stock. Its still comfortable on motorways and A roads, plus its handles much better than before with less bodyroll and more responsive steering.

Echo echo - those wheels don't suit the car IMO.

Again, these wheels are very similar to the stock Audi Monoblock rims, only with some lips to boot.

That looks much better.... than poverty spec, with old mercedes alloys.

I nearly fell off my chair from laughing so hard at this! Poverty-spec? The A8 was around £55k when new! If this is your idea of povo, you must a lottery winner!

Besides, if anything, this is top-of-the-range. There have never been different 'trim levels' to an A8, only engine options, being 2.8 V6, 3.7V8 and 4.2V8, and as this is a 4.2, its 'top-spec'. There were, of course, various optional extras, to which my particular car has about 50% of what is available. Bear in mind that this is a 1995 car, so the S8 wasn't around either!

enjoy !

As for speedbumps, I have to do exactly the same as most exotic car owners when it comes to them, find another way!

OK, so hopefully, some of you will be a little more educated regarding this car, I don't expect you to change your opinions about it, that's not what I was looking to achieve.

At least now you can take on board a few more facts and make a much better judgement, rather than sweeping statements and assumptions.

Have a great day folks!

 

[[TW]Fox]

How is it possible to both have the car setup so that it absorbs bumps rather than crashes over them, yet not have it ground out over compressions and dips in the road due to the 30mm of ground clearance?

Surely if the dampers are absorbing bumps, the car will, at some points, be lower to the ground than it is when its standing still?

If handle was your primary concern and ride quality is of zero importance to you what were the reasons behind chosing an A8?

 

[Phal]

*waits for people to come and say otherwise* :E

 

[alexthecheese]

Not entirely sure why you made the effort to come over here to defend yourself as it's really not necessary - everyone's entitled to their opinion so you should just leave it as that really. At the end of the day coming on here you can't change someone's opinion on aesthetics by telling us about dampers and whatnot. Different horses for courses and all that jazz.

 

[penski]

At the end of the day coming on here you can't change someone's opinion on aesthetics by telling us about dampers and whatnot

Did you read his post?

He categorically stated that he wasn't trying to change anyone's opinion and that he just wanted to correct some incorrect statements...

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[Entai]

How is it possible to both have the car setup so that it absorbs bumps rather than crashes over them, yet not have it ground out over compressions and dips in the road due to the 30mm of ground clearance?

The uprated shocks and springs he fitted have obviously been tailored to match the ride height he was aiming at. The shock absorbers will be valved to allow some movement in a progressive way to avoid banging and crashing, but still give a firm yet compliant ride.

Surely if the dampers are absorbing bumps, the car will, at some points, be lower to the ground than it is when its standing still?

Yes but the suspension will be tuned to minimise that amount of travel, so with 30mm clearance the max travel from rest to fully compressed may only be 10-15mm, thus still giving 15-20mm clearance.

Horses for courses, you select the travel and compliance you require for the ride height you want, by varying the strength of the valving in the shockers and by tuning the spring rates, by moving the platforms on the coilovers or by replacing them with lighter or heavier springs as needed to get the result you want.

 

[fRostiE]

As for speedbumps, I have to do exactly the same as most exotic car owners when it comes to them, find another way!

sucks to be you in a rush

but respect to you for doing what you wanted to regardless of peoples opinions, ignore fox tho, if its not a BMW then its not roadworthy.

but out of interest fox wont your new big alloys make the ride slightly harsher in your 5 series ? isnt that a luxery boat too?

 

["andy"]

but out of interest fox wont your new big alloys make the ride slightly harsher in your 5 series ? isnt that a luxery boat too?

 

[alexthecheese]

Did you read his post?

He categorically stated that he wasn't trying to change anyone's opinion and that he just wanted to correct some incorrect statements...

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Patently not well enough.

 

[[TW]Fox]

but respect to you for doing what you wanted to regardless of peoples opinions, ignore fox tho, if its not a BMW then its not roadworthy.

When are people like you going to stop saying this? It does nothing but make you look stupid. You will note that I like and recommend all sorts of different cars, not just BMW's, and actually dislike more of the BMW product range than I actually like. Furthermore, I rarely specifically recommend a BMW to somebody.

He would have got exactly the same opinion from me had it been a 1995 7 Series.

So kindly shut you face

but out of interest fox wont your new big alloys make the ride slightly harsher in your 5 series ? isnt that a luxery boat too?

The 5 Series is not a luxury car - arguably BMW don't offer any true luxury cars but if they did, it'd be the 7 Series. It's a mid range exec saloon, which by it's specification is a tradeoff of comfort v performance/handling.

 

[fRostiE]

i think its because it annoys you, and the attitude of a 5 year old you portray in some of your posts

without getting to personal, get stuffed.

/me shakes keyboard at fox

 

[[TW]Fox]

i think its because it annoys you, and the attitude of a 5 year old you portray in some of your posts

Pray tell dear Pot, what colour is the kettle? If you must try and have a go at me please have the decency to do so in a sentance that actually makes sense.

without getting to personal, get stuffed.

How does no sound? You are the one who launched into a load of rubbish simply becuase I dared not to like some guys A8.

I thought you loved me anyway, I recommend Fiesta 1.25's to everyone. But you didnt notice that, becuase you were too busy pretending that I think its crap if it isnt a BMW.

 

[fRostiE]

Pray tell dear Pot, what colour is the kettle? If you must try and have a go at me please have the decency to do so in a sentance that actually makes sense.



How does no sound? You are the one who launched into a load of rubbish simply becuase I dared not to like some guys A8.

you dare not to like a majority of what goes though this forum, ive been around long enough to watched most motors threads and some of the tosh you come out with is interesting to say the least

and the kettle in my house is black and silver ?!?!?

and quit editing your posts after u post them

 

[[TW]Fox]

you dare not to like a majority of what goes though this forum

Actually I'd say this is quite a conservative forum and as a result, I like the majority of the cars posted here, but irrespective of this, what exactly is the problem with not holding popular opinion on something? You give kudos to that guy for not following everyone elses opinions (Which is great) yet I have to... what? I dont' know, pretend to like stuff I don't? How bizarre.

ive been around long enough to watched most motors threads and some of the tosh you come out with is interesting to say the least

Whereas you post high quality advice on a daily basis? If you think what I say is tosh, be a man and show it as the tosh it is by posting a cohesive and factually accurate counter-arguement. It holds a lot more weight than pathetic, pointless made up lets pretend 'OMG LOL HE HATES EVERYTHING THAT ISNT BMW LOL' rubbish, and actually benefits this forum.

I must be the only person in the entire world who can be a BMW loving badge snob hate everything that isn't a BMW loving Ford fanboy Well, thats if you believe this forum anyway.

and the kettle in my house is black and silver ?!?!?

Please don't tell me that one went over your head

Bottom line: I don't like that A8 becuase I think the wheels are horrid and its lowered to much. I don't dislike that A8 simply becuase it isn't a BMW. If you actually think that, then do me the courtesy of bothering to read my posts in future before you level accusations.

 

[fRostiE]

Actually I'd say this is quite a conservative forum and as a result, I like the majority of the cars posted here, but irrespective of this, what exactly is the problem with not holding popular opinion on something? You give kudos to that guy for not following everyone elses opinions (Which is great) yet I have to... what? I dont' know, pretend to like stuff I don't? How bizarre.

i gave him kudo's for doing what he felt like on his car, all you had to say was that it wasnt to your tastes !

Whereas you post high quality advice on a daily basis? If you think what I say is tosh, be a man and show it as the tosh it is by posting a cohesive and factually accurate counter-arguement. It holds a lot more weight than pathetic, pointless made up lets pretend 'OMG LOL HE HATES EVERYTHING THAT ISNT BMW LOL' rubbish, and actually benefits this forum.

some of your posts are down right silly, i dont come on here to slate peoples cars, i use the forums to find out interesting facts and to see what people are upto.. looks at some nice cars like Marks porsche and give opinions where they are asked for (like in your alloy thread)

i have no car knowledge of which to speak just an opinion for when it has been asked of me.

if its pretend how come im not the only one to have said it?

Please don't tell me that one went over your head

yeh it did (not the kettle tho)

so much for not getting sidetracked :/

 

[[TW]Fox]

i gave him kudo's for doing what he felt like on his car, all you had to say was that it wasnt to your tastes !

Have you ever been on a forum where the rules permit only posts like 'Thats not to my taste'? It's dull and boring. Somebody posts a pink Corsa, 10 people say 'Thats nice' 5 people say 'Not to my tastes but I'm glad you like it' and the thread dies. How thrilling.

Is it not far better to explain WHY you dont like it, and suggest reasons which contribute to why you don't like it?

some of your posts are down right silly, i dont come on here to slate peoples cars

I don't come on here to slate peoples cars either, I come on here to engage in discussion about all different types of cars with all different types of people with all different types of opinion.

Do you think he'd have come on here and explained to us exactly how he had gone about lowernig the car, why he made the choices he did and how it had all worked if this thread was 20 different people saying it 'Was not to my taste old boy'? Of course not. We got an amusing thread, a collection of opinions and a bit of fact from the owner. The only time it turned hostile was... oh yes, following a snide remark from yourself

i have no car knowledge of which to speak just an opinion for when it has been asked of me.

The very nature of something posted on the internet is that it is asking for opinions.

if its pretend how come im not the only one to have said it?

Becuase this forum LOVES bandwagons. Stuff becomes legend and new members just lap it up. The 306 DTurbo thing for example. A few people said if you adjust a screw its a bit quicker. Suddenly the entire form repeatedly takes the mick for several years about screwmodded 306's are rocket ships.

What you said is simply false - I recommend/praise NUMEROUS different cars IRRESPECTIVE of badges and have even stated I would rather have an Audi RS4 over an E60 BMW M5, and that 1 Series are rubbish and you'd be better off with an A3 or a Focus. Well thats the words of somebody for whom if it isnt a BMW, its rubbish, isn't it? Oh, no, actually.

This time last year apparently I was some sort of Ford fanboy, and I thought all Fords were amazing. In reality, I'm not really a fan of many cars Ford have made and wouldn't buy a single one of them bar the Mondeo, or the Focus at a push. Despite constantly remdining people of this I remained a Ford fanboy. Suddenly I'm a badge snob or whatever. Jeez, have a bit of consistency. Badge snobs don't praise Fiestas.

yeh it did (not the kettle tho)

Pot calling kettle black = people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones = your posting style isn't exactly Mr Mature.

 

[penski]

Get a room, you two...

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