Harsh ruling or fair?

Pinkribbonscars · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:42

Bunch of idiots, obviously, and they should go to jail, but that first paragraph is tabloid trash at its very worst. The girls should take a lot of the blame for this.

[FnG]magnolia · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:42

ash_scotland88 said:
I know it's cruel but girls that dress like whores deserve anything they get, no matter the age.
They dress for it they ask for it.

Are you condoning rape because they dress like whores and therefore "are asking for it"?

Holy crap.

ash_scotland88 · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:43

Not rape, but unwanted attention, the odd creeping hand etc

Twentyone · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:44

ash_scotland88 said:
I know it's cruel but girls that dress like whores deserve anything they get, no matter the age.
They dress for it they ask for it.

Just no.

I used to wear mini skirts when I was younger. Because it was so warm though, not because I was trying to pull. I think it's a bit odd that you think it would then be okay for some man to touch me just for dressing for the weather? :confused:

RDM · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:45

ash_scotland88 said:
Not rape, but unwanted attention, the odd creeping hand etc

Nope, still disagree. Dressing provacatively is not an open invitation for you to grope a girl. 12 years old or 21 years old.

Kouba · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:45

I think ash has a point, he's not condoning the rape, but when girls do dress like that then they should expect the attention.

*Not the invitation to groping part

[FnG]magnolia · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:46

ash_scotland88 said:
Not rape, but unwanted attention, the odd creeping hand etc

So you're cool with molestation of a minor but rape is probably a step too far? Am I getting this right?

badcompany · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:48

ash_scotland88 said:
I know it's cruel but girls that dress like whores deserve anything they get, no matter the age.
They dress for it they ask for it.

Yer get em in da burka's sharpish !

ash_scotland88 · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:48

[FnG]magnolia;18713345 said:
So you're cool with molestation of a minor but rape is probably a step too far? Am I getting this right?

But they lead them on, they dressed provactavley and lied about their age. It's their own doing.

rypt · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:49

Last I checked "rape" was when the other person did not give consent, in this case it seems harsh to call it rape if the girls gave consent (despite being below the age of consent)

Kouba · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:49

Do you guys believe that dressing in a lustful manner is something acceptable in a society where maniacs rome the streets? It certainly isnt recommendable.

Sure it doesnt justify the rape or the molestation, but it seriously does attract attention from some... highly hormonal people shall we say.

[FnG]magnolia · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:51

rypt said:
in this case it seems harsh to call it rape if the girls gave consent (despite being below the age of consent)

Do you understand what you've written?

Maximum Triceratops · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:53

twentyone said:
Just no.

I used to wear mini skirts when I was younger. Because it was so warm though, not because I was trying to pull. I think it's a bit odd that you think it would then be okay for some man to touch me just for dressing for the weather?

Pics plx

rypt · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:53

[FnG]magnolia;18713385 said:
Do you understand what you've written?

yes, but I'm speaking from a practical rather than legal pov

RDM · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:56

rypt said:
Last I checked "rape" was when the other person did not give consent, in this case it seems harsh to call it rape if the girls gave consent (despite being below the age of consent)

I believe that the law bascially considers them unable to give informed consent at the age of 12 so it is effectively rape. Obviously each person will be different but I would struggle to see how a 12 year old is going to look 16.

Dirty-Blade said:
Do you guys believe that dressing in a lustful manner is something acceptable in a society where maniacs rome the streets? It certainly isnt recommendable.

I believe that you should be able to dress however you like without being molested, raped or bothered to be honest. "They were asking for it" is a pretty old fashioned and misoginistic attitude that I had hoped was fading, but obviously it is alive and well even outside the judicary...

Dirty-Blade said:
Sure it doesnt justify the rape or the molestation, but it seriously does attract attention from some... highly hormonal people shall we say.

The problem lies with the highly hormonal people tbh. What if a girl is dressed to kill for the benefit of her partner, is she "asking for it" too?

RDM · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:57

Maximum Triceratops said:
Pics plx

Considering the topic of the thread are you sure you really want to be asking for pictures?

Jokester · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:57

I think it's a sad sign of the times when there isn't really a victim in this case as the girls behaviour was appalling as well.

ash_scotland88 · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:57

RDM said:
I believe that you should be able to dress however you like without being molested, raped or bothered to be honest. "They were asking for it" is a pretty old fashioned and misoginistic attitude that I had hoped was fading, but obviously it is alive and well even outside the judicary...
?

In an idea world I too beleive that, but sadly it's often too reported to be a reality.

SuperMan · 20 Mar 2011 at 22:01

The men all handed themselves in and its quoted as saying the CPS wouldn't even have a case if they hadn't been so honest. a lot of people lie about there age, seems they just got done over.

Driving license or passport from now on before any sexual activate!

RickST · 20 Mar 2011 at 22:01

Without seeing the girls it is impossible to say. 12 does seem awfully young to be mistaken for 16.