With the 5600X being the same price as the 3700X it needs to beat the 3700X in all metrics.
If it does that, great. If it can't do that, the price needs to come down.
Well all metrics you plan to use it for.
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With the 5600X being the same price as the 3700X it needs to beat the 3700X in all metrics.
If it does that, great. If it can't do that, the price needs to come down.
Interesting they didn't use Port Royale on that list of benchmarks. Almost as if Big Navi will be like the 5700XT: better than Nvidia in rasterisation at the same price point but not very capable in ray tracing, albeit much better than the 5700 series which didn't even support DXR.Ryzen 5000 may not be the only thing faster in games..............................squeaky bottom time at Nvidia maybe
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There are slides out there showing port royale rt performance. It is not even close to 3080. There will probably be a lot of driver updates in the next 12months to close that gap.Interesting they didn't use Port Royale on that list of benchmarks. Almost as if Big Navi will be like the 5700XT: better than Nvidia in rasterisation at the same price point but not very capable in ray tracing, albeit much better than the 5700 series which didn't even support DXR.
that said RT performance is really not that important atm.
You are reading too much into it,he clearly said at 11:50 that they haven’t tested the CPUs and are are just going by assumptions.https://youtu.be/wU-X1JC6G9I
They go into 5600x vs 3700x @ 6:35
but most interestingly Steve said something quite affirmative at 13:44 “significant improvements”. Then Tim reigned him in by saying “going by AMd numbers of course”. But Steve pulled a smiley face. Immediately said said “we will have these benchmarks shortly...day one review”.
This sounds like they have tested the CPUs already.
i wonder if I am reading too much into this.
also amongst the general talk between 3700x and 5600x, Steve said that the productivity will be evenly matched between the two. So similar multicore scores. How does he know that without having tested the CPU? That’s not in AMD presentations. Hardware Unboxed dont generally speculate on rumours or leaked bench data. For them to say as much must mean they got some data to back it up right?
https://youtu.be/wU-X1JC6G9I
They go into 5600x vs 3700x @ 6:35
but most interestingly Steve said something quite affirmative at 13:44 “significant improvements”. Then Tim reigned him in by saying “going by AMd numbers of course”. But Steve pulled a smiley face. Immediately said said “we will have these benchmarks shortly...day one review”.
This sounds like they have tested the CPUs already.
i wonder if I am reading too much into this.
also amongst the general talk between 3700x and 5600x, Steve said that the productivity will be evenly matched between the two. So similar multicore scores. How does he know that without having tested the CPU? That’s not in AMD presentations. Hardware Unboxed dont generally speculate on rumours or leaked bench data. For them to say as much must mean they got some data to back it up right?
I am afraid I couldn't disagree more. We finally have a generation of GPUs capable of real time reflections, shadows and lighting as well as consoles which will (to a lesser extent) support the technology helping to drive adoption by developers.
If you are buying a GPU at this point without ray tracing I can honestly say you will be missing out in the very near future. Just stick with whatever you have already if raytracing does not interest you as there is little point in just having a couple more frames per second
sometimes they just don't want to say anything to avoid people harassing themYou are reading too much into it,he clearly said at 11:50 that they haven’t tested the CPUs and are are just going by assumptions.
True, as this thread shows people will read into and make a huge deal about anything.sometimes they just don't want to say anything to avoid people harassing them
sometimes they just don't want to say anything to avoid people harassing them
they could say nothing (about not testing them) but I don't think they'd lie just like that.True, as this thread shows people will read into and make a huge deal about anything.
Day 1, probably 7am GMT or whenever ET ticks over to 5th Nov got hardware unboxed. And probably similar for any YouTube outlets when the NDA expires.When are zen 3 reviews out?
Yeah, but the informal nature of these Q&As meant they wandered into that territory. I think they have absolutely tested chips, but they probably feel they covered themselves off well enough by referencing the AMD material.they could say nothing (about not testing them) but I don't think they'd lie just like that.
But the video wasn’t live,they could have easily edited whatever slipped out.Yeah, but the informal nature of these Q&As meant they wandered into that territory. I think they have absolutely tested chips, but they probably feel they covered themselves off well enough by referencing the AMD material.