Haswell -E Core i7-5960X, 5930K, 5820K specifications

[Boomstick777]

http://www.coolaler.com/showthread.php/315730

 

[Boomstick777]

Will be interesting to see if they keep the same price points, £240 for a hex core?

Agreed, these will be decent chips. Plus DDR4. Prices will be deciding factor for most, can't see that 6 core 5820K coming in under £300, I mean that will likely have 4960X beating performance

I was hoping that 5930k would also be 8 core

The 6 cores will likely clock much higher / less heat than the 8 core. gamers will be better off with the higher clocking 6 cores. 8 core for workstation type environment. Or ultimate E-Peen

 

[Boomstick777]

Those pcie configs look meh...

So can't even run 3 x cards at 16x each?

Think May just pick up 4930k and workstation board after all.

The other way of looking at it is, for those who run 1 GPU the 5820K will offer everything the 5930K will. Overclock to same speeds for much less money. 6 core Haswell '5820K' will likely beat 4960X. Could be an epic CPU for the money, I imagine it coming in at around £330 though..

 

[Boomstick777]

If this was the case (or even at about £300) I would be all over a new setup to replace my 2500k.

That said DDR4 will probably be quite expensive as well...

Yep if around £300 for the 5820K, lot's of people will be all over it. Possibility of 4960X performance or better with the 5820K. This is going to be a potentially expensive year

 

[Boomstick777]

If want 8 cores, the Broadwell -E 14nm 8 core will be the one to get. Should clock better and use much less power. Hopefully slot in upgrade like Sandy X79 > Ivy X79 was.

5820K looks pick out of these first E chips, 6 cores, hopefully not much more than £300. Ideal until Broadwell -E.

 

[Boomstick777]

Yes although if you want to use 3+ GPUs, the 5820k won't be sufficient.

The kind of buyer after the cheaper 5820K is also the kind of buyer that will run one or two GPU's so will be ideal for the cheaper bracket.

Enthusiast will go for for 5930K / 5960X plus multiple GPU's, that is a far less common setup tbh.

The entry level on -E has been this good tbh. Buy into the platform with the 5820K, then replace with 14nm chip next year. The 14nm 8 cores should potentially clock a lot better plus use much less power.

Looking forward to seeing reviews on these badboys.

 

[Boomstick777]

Source

Please don't let this be the only 8 core unlocked chip coming out, I know I will likely end up getting this if it is

Awwwwww what a beast...


Must resist !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Boomstick777]

3.3Ghz 8 core Intel Haswell -E with 20mb cache..

Question is would you even need to overclock?



These are soldered and it's possible that they feature the same improvements Devils' Canyon do.. I.e redesigned for better temps higher clock threshold.

Man that 8 core looks epic..

For gaming I think 4790K (4.4Ghz) might be better, but for workstation / movie encoding etc. This will be a monster !

 

[Boomstick777]

That's nice to hear. I'll stay on 4790k.

I think we're years away from 8 cores 16 threads being relevant enough for a lower clocked 8 core part to outperform a high clocked 4 core 8 threads.

By the time it happens 6/8 cores will be much more affordable.

4790K will be best for gaming imho. Low power use / high performance.

E-Peen / benchmarks and workstation - Haswell -E

Hoping I can resist that 5960X.. The E-peen is strong with this one

 

[Boomstick777]

I wouldn't go recommending such an old chip, especially when there's architecture improvements, clock for clock faster, DDR4 and M.2. X79 is dated, lets move on.

Agreed, if looking at an -E platform. X99 with 5820K would be a much better option. DDR4 support, higher IPC / Lower power use, plus future upgrade options on 14nm.

 

[Boomstick777]

The IPC from Sandy to Haswell is about 10%, couple that with big reduction in power use. Plus support for DDR4 and future CPU's it's def the -E platform to go for..

If you buy into x99 -E at 5820K say 16GB DDR4 and decent Mobo, price won't be that bad VS say 3930K / 4930K 16GB DDR3 and X79 mobo was at launch.

 

[Boomstick777]

10% IPC gain on a good day (depends upon applications), coupled with 10% loss in overclocking = Zero gain?

DDR4 specs ain't that good either when you look at it like this:
DDR 400 > DDR2 800 > DDR3 1600 > DDR4 3200? - nope , not looking good.

Yeah that's true, but no reason these 6 cores won't reach decent clocks. Only the 8 core will be iffy due to heat etc when overclocking.

The benefit of DDR4 isn't just the speed but much lower voltage. First new ram spec is always around the top speed of last DDR format. So although DDR4 might come in at 2133mhz. Over time it will become way way faster than DDR3.

5820K + say 16GB DDR4 2133mhz will be a good entry level into X99 setup. Then later on when DDR4 prices settle and higher speed is available at least would have the option to use it in X99..

 

[Boomstick777]

The thing is though, if you can't do it with four channels of DDR3, then you can't do it with two channels of DDR4 either, so basically DDR5 is going to be here before anything non synthetic is having memory bandwidth issues on X79, which means with six IB-E cores clocked at 4.5GHz I should be good for quite a few years

Yeah I think any decent Intel chip from the past few years will be good for a long while yet, especially with new API's looking to reduce CPU overhead, but how many of us upgrade when we need to.. Most of us here want overkill lol. The latest and greatest. I don't think anybody needs a 5960X. Not gonna stop people buying it anyway lol.

For benching and workstation stuff Haswell -E is going to a beast.

 

[Boomstick777]

Think I might need to disable the internet when Haswell -E launches.. Stop myself buying stuff I really don't need

 

[Boomstick777]

8GB Corsair DDR4 Dominator Platinum will be circa $80 for 8GB DDR4 in Q3 2014. Around £50 for 8GB 2400mhz DDR4 (£100 for 16GB). Not that bad tbh as a lot of DDR3 16GB kits are around £100 now anyway.

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/u...-platinum-and-expected-ddr4-pricing-idnum288/

 

[Boomstick777]

Are the motherboards going to be limited to the minimum DDR4 speeds that first come out or will they allow the max future speeds?

The boards will be capable of higher speed RAM. Probably listed as OC just like current mobo's are. The Crucial DDR4 Ballistix Elite DDR4 memory delivers introductory speeds that start at 2666 MT/s and 3000 MT/s. Not bad tbh. Obviously speeds will get much better over time. Broadwell -E will offer higher clocked stock memory compatibility, and the X99 boards this year should be fine for Haswell -E and Broadwell -E at higher memory speeds as time goes on.

 

[Boomstick777]

Should be? So not really guaranteed? Is there anywhere i can find out for sure or would only the motherboard makers know the answer?

X99 will be designed for two CPU generations 'Haswell -E' 'Broadwell -E', I'm sure Intel would have designed the boards to run with DDR4 spec for those two years.

The vendors haven't released any X99 spec yet, it will be available nearer to launch. You won't be able to buy a X99 mobo until then so I wouldn't worry about it much tbh.

 

[Boomstick777]

EVGA teases X99 Motherboard

That CPU socket size

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/unlocked/evga-teases-next-gen-x99-motherboard-idnum289/

 

[Boomstick777]

That's the same size as x79 isn't it?

Also, does anyone think x99 and a 6-core processor would be worthwhile for gamers, even if perhaps they are not now? I'm trying to future proof myself and the decision between DC and x99 is on-going.

Z97 and X99 are both fairly 'future proof' as you put it.

X99 will be good for Haswell -E then Broadwell -E.

Z97 is good for Haswell, Devil's Canyon and then Broadwell.

X99 comes with DDR4 support, but the memory will cost a lil more than DDR3.

Both setups will be excellent for gaming, with X99 costing a bit more along with consuming a fair bit more power than the mainstream stuff. If you encode movies or do other workstation type stuff, X99 would make more sense all things considered. If you just want a pure gaming machine Z97 + Haswell is also a great option and will save you a few quid.

 

[Boomstick777]

Intel HEDT Haswell-E ‘Core i7-5820K’ to be 20% More Expensive, Core i7-5930K and Core i7-5960X Will Remain the Same

So we just got word from the Chinese VR-Zone.com about Intel’s HEDT Haswell-E Platform and the supporting X99 Chipset. Basically the Haswell-E based Core i7-5820K will be around 20% more expensive than its predecessor (as the heading would have told you no doubt).

http://wccftech.com/intel-hedt-haswelle-core-i7-5820k20-expensive-ivy-bridgee-counterpart/