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Haswell -E Core i7-5960X, 5930K, 5820K specifications

Not everyone has the luxury of time, sitting around waiting for rumoured cpu's to emerge ;)

Besides - If you paid £400 like I did for my 4960x then you'll still be laughing knowing that the next gen 'extreme' 6 core chips ain't gunna be that cheap either :p

DDR4 is a joke at the moment - can hit higher speeds using IVY-E and DDR3 at the mo! By the time it gets to a better speed will be seeing that 'cube memory' stuff coming into play in which case a new platform too.

Jumps in CPU performance are long gone, Intel are just milking us especially for gamers when what really matters is GPU grunt.
 
I don't think HMC/HBM is going to replace DDR, from what I've read it can't scale to densities like 32 or even 16GB. At least not for a while.
 
zoomee said:
Not everyone has the luxury of time, sitting around waiting for rumoured cpu's to emerge ;)

Besides - If you paid £400 like I did for my 4960x then you'll still be laughing knowing that the next gen 'extreme' 6 core chips ain't gunna be that cheap either :p

DDR4 is a joke at the moment - can hit higher speeds using IVY-E and DDR3 at the mo! By the time it gets to a better speed will be seeing that 'cube memory' stuff coming into play in which case a new platform too.

Jumps in CPU performance are long gone, Intel are just milking us especially for gamers when what really matters is GPU grunt.
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This post does read bit like your justifying your own build. That's great that your happy with it, but for those waiting it doesn't mean X99 isn't a much better option than X79.

DDR4 is hardly a joke, the main feature being that is that it uses much less voltage for the same speeds as DDR3. As time goes on DDR4 speeds will become much much faster than DDR3.

You say jumps in performance are long gone, but with Haswell -E The extra IPC and extra 2 cores will add a fair chunk of performance over X79, along with newer featured motherboards, DDR4 and 14nm CPU support in Broadwell -E, so in terms of performance jumps X99 offers more than Ivy did over Sandybridge. X99 is looking the best high end option for many years, and a worthy upgrade for those who have been waiting since Sandybridge or earlier for a real upgrade.
 
Core-for-core the 8 will not be much faster than the previous gen. They never are. Usually only 10% or so perhaps. But the whole point is you get 2 x extra cores! That's an enormous boost if you're not going multi-CPU like xeon etc. Of course it will cost a premium but that's absolutely fine and expected.
 
Boomstick777 said:
Sorry but that's tosh :P

Intel have always priced the lower 'E' tier to compete with the mainstream stuff. Intel 3820K VS 3770K, 4820K VS 4770K, 5820K should be -£350, Intel want to encourage more people onto the extreme platform, not put them off..
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Only thing that makes this harder to judge is that each of the examples above is a 4c/8t vs a 4c/8t while the 5820k is 6c/12t vs a 4790k on 4c/8t so you could see why there could be a bigger price gap going to the enthusiast stuff. I'd expect you'll be right though - once someone has been sold on the idea of an extreme platform they are more likely to move higher up, plus are likely to want to maintain that relative market position in future generations so it's well worth it for Intel to try and upsell people.
 
Pre-order prices of Intel Haswell-E processors

Intel is readying next generation Core i7 extreme microprocessors, that will be formally introduced this fall. The new line of CPUs, based on Haswell-E core, will include the first ever 8-core desktop microprocessor from Intel. The Core i7s will also feature a number of microarchitecture enhancements, support for DDR4 memory, and they will available with a new chipset. All in all, the company will launch three SKUs, namely six-core Core i7-5820K and i7-5930K, and eight-core i7-5960X. All three processors are already available for pre-order in US:
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http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/2014071501_Pre-order_prices_of_Intel_Haswell-E_processors.html

Rough UK Price.

Intel i7 5960X = $1107.83. £646.38 + 20% VAT =

£775.66

Intel i7 5930K = $631.54. £368.48 + 20% VAT =

£442.18

Intel i7 5820K = $425.92. £248.51 + 20% VAT =

£298.21
 
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Boomstick777 said:
This post does read bit like your justifying your own build. That's great that your happy with it, but for those waiting it doesn't mean X99 isn't a much better option than X79.

DDR4 is hardly a joke, the main feature being that is that it uses much less voltage for the same speeds as DDR3. As time goes on DDR4 speeds will become much much faster than DDR3.

You say jumps in performance are long gone, but with Haswell -E The extra IPC and extra 2 cores will add a fair chunk of performance over X79, along with newer featured motherboards, DDR4 and 14nm CPU support in Broadwell -E, so in terms of performance jumps X99 offers more than Ivy did over Sandybridge. X99 is looking the best high end option for many years, and a worthy upgrade for those who have been waiting since Sandybridge or earlier for a real upgrade.
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Maybe he is trying to justify his purchase. Maybe with what I say I'm doing the same, but, that doesn't mean there's not an element of truth to it.

Nobody with a Sandybridge I7 should have upgraded to either Ivy Bridge or Haswell. My friend still has his 2600k and it's been sat at 5ghz ever since he got it. Now yes, Haswell and Ivy are faster (if you can reach the same clocks as him which is, at best, doubtful) but they didn't do anything Sandy couldn't.

I mulled on it long and hard, and tbh? I didn't even want Haswell. I have seen far more horror stories than I have seen happy ever after stories. I've seen people who could not even hit 4.3ghz lol. That's appalling and will only be made worse when you bolt on more cores. Now I could be wrong, Haswell E could be a completely different technology to Haswell, but I doubt it.

Any new DDR memory is always terrible at launch. DDR3 was like 1.8v and most of it was terribly unstable. It was also, at the time of launch, no faster than DDR2 so I do agree with him there. It was, however, hideously expensive. Like three times as much as DDR2.

TBH? the only thing that interests me about X99 is the octo cored Haswell E and I wouldn't have been able to afford it any way. And, it's compounded by the fact that Intel could have released 12 core chips into the desktop market ages ago. I hate the way they drip feed us second hand server CPUs.
 
Rossi~ said:
+ 5-10% General EU/UK shafting.
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There's already the US pre-order shafting on those prices. The 5960X and 5930K are very close to their predecessors. The 5820K looks to be about £50 more. Not bad at all for 2 extra cores :)

Once the initial pre-order UK gauging dies down these will be pretty good prices tbh.

Might just have to sell kidney and go 5960X :D
 
So it's a 3.3ghz CPU, and that's with Turbo. 3ghz base clock.

Looks like Intel are going to have to hit the PR hard and get people to support all of those cores.
 
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