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Islam is the new Communism, all nicely packaged up for us to dislike. Not that I do, I dislike most organised religions, but buddism is something that may interest me.
 
Abz said:
I agree with the stupid things people are doing in the name of Allah. However for 10's or maybe 100's of years westerners have came and done may bad deeds in the muslim countries, dont you think that they have reached boiling point.

Am not saying the should do the things they are doing right now.

Besides we are going in to politics now. Am talking about the religon.
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I'm not excusing what happened during the Crusades and the like (to which I presume you are referring) but don't you think that we should try and learn from the experience. It sometimes seems that *strict* muslim beliefs are at odds with the lessons learned from history. I suppose this could be said of any religion (the resistance/inability to change views) and hence why I (and others) have certain "anti-religion" views. Certainly in this country Christianity has kept its head down for a long while now perhaps mindful of the fact that we're a much more secular society than we once were. Islam on the other hand is bold and brash with its opinions - at least those followers who are given column inches are!

The media has an inherent need to fill column inches and publishing the views of a minority fills those inches and generates many more in letters, peer reviews, follow ups etc.
 
My personal problem with such things is not religion, its not beleif , its not even how things go on in other countries. We all know the war is dirty.

My probelm and it comes across in one or two posts - is that people, whoever they may be (muslim, polish, even americans ), SOME OF THEM seem to think they can come to our country and tell us how to do things. We need this law we need that law, you cant do this this and this in your own country. Thats what bugs me.
 
Royal Fleet said:
I think it is mainly due to a cultural clash.

Some of the fundamental tenets of western society, e.g. equality for all, freedom of speech go against the Islam belief in images of Mohammed and the place of women in society.

Those would be my main beefs with the wider religion. Obviously I take a pretty dim view of the extremists, but I accept that that is extremism which exists in all areas of society,
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Agreed, i don't agree with the whole "lets go back to living in the stone age" Islamic approach :D
 
I hate the fact that loony liberals are trying to appease Muslims by renaming Christian festivals such as Christmas. I also dislike the way that so many Muslims are portrayed in the media wanting Sharia law imposed here when thay could easily move to another country that does practice Sharia law instead of remaining here and complaining that we don't. They came to this country knowing about our ways and customs, they have no right to change them.

There was a major ****-up in Scotland yesterday when it was discovered that lamb sold as halal may in fact have not been killed in the proper way (unethical in my view) and was therefore not halal. Two of the Muslim recipients where interviewed and both stated that they had sinned against Allah through no fault of their own but that their honour had been tainted and as such they where prepared to kill the supplier of the aforementioned lamb. Now, does that seem like the actions of reasonable men? That is why Islam gets a bad name.
 
eddiemcgarrigle said:
There was a major ****-up in Scotland yesterday when it was discovered that lamb sold as halal may in fact have not been killed in the proper way (unethical in my view) and was therefore not halal. Two of the Muslim recipients where interviewed and both stated that they had sinned against Allah through no fault of their own but that their honour had been tainted and as such they where prepared to kill the supplier of the aforementioned lamb. Now, does that seem like the actions of reasonable men? That is why Islam gets a bad name.
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Perhaps some of our muslim members could confirm this but I thought if you took it as being Halal in good faith then you have not sinned if it subsequently turns out it was not the case.
 
It's not Islam that's hated its the nut-job; crazy, cave dwelling, mongrol, brain dead morons that use it as an excuse for all sorts of evilness.
 
Many people on here fall into the very trap they criticise religion for, that of being intolerant towards those who don't share their beliefs.

I don't care what you believe, unless you try to make me believe it or force me to make allowances for it. (Generally I'll happily make allowances, but that's different to be forced to make them)
 
Dolph said:
Many people on here fall into the very trap they criticise religion for, that of being intolerant towards those who don't share their beliefs.
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You mean many people in this thread or on the boards in general.

Dolph said:
I don't care what you believe, unless you try to make me believe it or force me to make allowances for it. (Generally I'll happily make allowances, but that's different to be forced to make them)
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I think that's how "many people" feel ;)
 
Capn' $qu!ff said:
I hate all religion tbh especially those that aren't actually religions but huge cons... Oh wait that's what every major religion that exists is!
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One grammatical correction ;).

Also, how can you be sure they're all a con? There's not really hard proof either way is there. :)
 
I am very against religion. I think this because not one of them is consistant and answers my questions, nor show enough evidence. I don't agree with all of the beliefs and rules you must follow to be part of a religion either. However, I do agree that bits and pieces of certain religions are actually quite good and do make a positive impact on people's lives.

The other side of the coin is that all religions have fanatical, unrealistic or even down right strange beliefs which spawn hatred and violence towards others. Hence why I choose to believe what I want to believe.
 
eddiemcgarrigle said:
I hate the fact that loony liberals are trying to appease Muslims by renaming Christian festivals such as Christmas.
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If you are being entirely fair then you should also recognise that December 25th is just a convenient date for Christians to hang a festival on since that time of year (and possibly that exact date but I can't remember offhand) was used by Pagans for their celebrations. Which gives a certain amount of irony if the festival and date is appropriated for a celebration under another name.

I'm not entirely sure you can blame it all on the Muslims, most of those I know couldn't give a toss about Christmas except perhaps that it gives them a couple of days off work. I'd guess the loony liberals are trying to appease all religions that aren't Christianity rather than just Muslims.
 
MTA99 said:
Perhaps some of our muslim members could confirm this but I thought if you took it as being Halal in good faith then you have not sinned if it subsequently turns out it was not the case.
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Apparently the butcher insists they've explained the circumstances to all their customers link here - Sounds like a storm in a tea cup to me :(
 
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