Having to run apps as admin to function in Windows 8

[theheyes]

Some apps these days expect UAC to be on and malfunction when it isn't.

 

[yashiro]

This is my belief also. I have the exact same issues with installing Vent and other apps.

If you are you also setting games (or Steam) to run 'As Admin' in the exe properties this is why.

Both processes often need to be running at the same elevation level. Either run both as admin, or none. The mixing of the two can cause problems when it comes to capturing keys and voice; not to mention the saving of files.

 

[ChrisD.]

Put UAC back on and wait on an update from TS or at least some official guidance. Turning UAC off seems daft tbh.

At least give post 11 a short, probably will work.

Why is having UAC off daft? It's personal preference, I dislike the constant pop ups and know what I am doing so simply turn it off.

You need to run the TS/G15 stuff at the same elevation level as your game.

You shouldn't need fiddle with .exe properties or shortcuts and force them to run as admin. This includes your games and/or Steam.

My thought exactly, it should all just run fine without changing anything.

Some apps these days expect UAC to be on and malfunction when it isn't.

So why does it work for some in this thread and not others? And why did I have no issues with Windows 7? Has something changed?

 

[Burnsy2023]

Why is having UAC off daft?

Because you're allowing hackers another attack vector.

 

[ChrisD.]

Because you're allowing hackers another attack vector.

Of course, silly me. Not used it since it came out with Vista and I'm not interested in using it now. Never had an issue and I doubt I ever will from a security POV.

 

[KIA]

Giving every single process full access to the operating system makes total sense!

 

[Burnsy2023]

Of course, silly me. Not used it since it came out with Vista and I'm not interested in using it now. Never had an issue and I doubt I ever will from a security POV.

Spoken like a true noob.

 

[ChrisD.]

Giving every single process full access to the operating system makes total sense!

But it's not as simple as that, even the links you post explain this.

Spoken like a true noob.

Less of the insults please.

 

[KIA]

But it's not as simple as that, even the links you post explain this.

Applications can request elevation to a high integrity process when UAC is off explicitly and no UAC dialog will be shown.

http://www.brianbondy.com/blog/id/140/

 

[ChrisD.]

I know this and I'm not contesting it, what I'm saying is that applications do not run as administrator when UAC is off. They can request to, but when launched, unless they sepcifically ask for it, they don't run as admin.

 

[Burnsy2023]

I know this and I'm not contesting it, what I'm saying is that applications do not run as administrator when UAC is off. They can request to, but when launched, unless they sepcifically ask for it, they don't run as admin.

And? Unless it needs something as an admin then it should be running in standard user mode as there is no need to run as admin.

 

[ChrisD.]

Herp derp.

 

[Burnsy2023]

Some people just can't be helped...

 

[ChrisD.]

Burnsey, I don't care!

I didn't ask about the potential vulnerabilities about turning UAC off, I asked how to fix my problem and why it's doing it. Running TS3 as admin solves it, but it's the exact resolution I'm seeking.

 

[Burnsy2023]

Burnsey, I don't care!

I didn't ask about the potential vulnerabilities about turning UAC off, I asked how to fix my problem and why it's doing it. Running TS3 as admin solves it, but it's the exact resolution I'm seeking.

Then do what has been suggested way back in post 11?

 

[ChrisD.]

Did you not read the thread title, or my issue? I don't want to have to run it as admin. Is that simple enough?

 

[KIA]

I know this and I'm not contesting it, what I'm saying is that applications do not run as administrator when UAC is off. They can request to, but when launched, unless they sepcifically ask for it, they don't run as admin.

You won't see the request. This behaviour is unique to Win8.

 

[Infidelus]

Did you not read the thread title, or my issue? I don't want to have to run it as admin. Is that simple enough?

Silly question, but have you actually contacted the developers of TS3? Seems to me they're the ones you should be ranting to.

 

[Fire Wizard]

Did you not read the thread title, or my issue? I don't want to have to run it as admin. Is that simple enough?

If you have User Account Control disabled and some of the processes which you run need administrative rights to function (rightly or wrongly), due to the changes which have been made to Windows 8 in terms of the integrity level processes run at, I'm afraid there isn't a lot that you can do.

The program's which require administrative rights to function, you will either have too right click on the application and click on the 'Run as administrator' option every time you want to run it, or open up the properties window for those specific applications which are causing you issues and check the 'Run this program as an administrator' option, like Hyperst mentioned in his post here. This being the most convenient option for you, obviously.

If you have UAC enabled, and run the applications which prompted you to make this thread, does the elevation dialog appear? Or do you still have to do one of the two things mentioned above?

 

[hyperst]

So you want to fix it, you know it needs admin privileges, yet you don't apply the fix and want us to tell you what's wrong with your system.

On a more serious note, at the install of windows 8 it ask's for some help setting it up or you can go with what's recommended, did you go with whats recommended or did you do it your self, I ask because I went with the defaults that windows 8 chose for me and my TS3 works fine so far.