Having to run apps as admin to function in Windows 8

[ChrisD.]

If you have User Account Control disabled and some of the processes which you run need administrative rights to function (rightly or wrongly), due to the changes which have been made to Windows 8 in terms of the integrity level processes run at, I'm afraid there isn't a lot that you can do.

The program's which require administrative rights to function, you will either have too right click on the application and click on the 'Run as administrator' option every time you want to run it, or open up the properties window for those specific applications which are causing you issues and check the 'Run this program as an administrator' option, like Hyperst mentioned in his post here. This being the most convenient option for you, obviously.

If you have UAC enabled, and run the applications which prompted you to make this thread, does the elevation dialog appear? Or do you still have to do one of the two things mentioned above?

Yes it appears, it also does with SWTOR, so I will contact them, it's as per the previous page where they have to have the same run level I guess.

So you want to fix it, you know it needs admin privileges, yet you don't apply the fix and want us to tell you what's wrong with your system.

On a more serious note, at the install of windows 8 it ask's for some help setting it up or you can go with what's recommended, did you go with whats recommended or did you do it your self, I ask because I went with the defaults that windows 8 chose for me and my TS3 works fine so far.

I can't remember mate, I think I just went with the default options and changed all the under the bonnet stuff afterwards.

As for wanting to fix it, it clearly works on other PCs running as a normall process, so something is clearly different on my PC. As above, if I put on UAC, it requests admin elevation. However, as does SWTOR so I may go an 'rant' on their forum.

Silly question, but have you actually contacted the developers of TS3? Seems to me they're the ones you should be ranting to.

I'm not ranting mate, just disappointed that people tell me how to use my computer when I couldn't care less. I may send them an email, cheers.

 

[hyperst]

When switching to 8, did you back anything up from the ts3 like identities in 7 and transfer over to 8 to save some time?

If so, maybe a unistall of TS3 and a clean install may help.

 

[ChrisD.]

No, I did a fresh install of the OS.

 

[Fire Wizard]

As above, if I put on UAC, it requests admin elevation. However, as does SWTOR so I may go an 'rant' on their forum.

Because those applications are actually requesting administrative rights, there is one last thing which you could try. If you enable User Account Control and then open up the Group Policy editor. Under Computer Configuration, if you double click 'Windows settings' followed by 'Security Settings'. Now click on 'Local Policies' and then 'Security Options'.

On the right hand side of the group policy editor, if you scroll to the bottom and find the option 'User Account Control: Behavior of the elevation prompt for administrators in Admin Approval Mode' (3rd option down in the cluster of the User Account Control settings) and then double click. In the drop down box, select the 'Elevate without prompting' option.

In Windows 8, this is essentially the same as if UAC had been disabled, (ignoring the other aspects of UAC obviously). Though, in your situation, this may negate the need to have to do one of the two things mentioned in my previous post, and as other people have mentioned in the thread as well.

Give it a go. It may work.

 

[hyperst]

No, I did a fresh install of the OS.

No, I meant from the TS3, did you save anything like identities and such stuff and use in your new install of TS3

 

[ChrisD.]

Because those applications are actually requesting administrative rights, there is one last thing which you could try. If you enable User Account Control and then open up the Group Policy editor. Under Computer Configuration, if you double click 'Windows settings' followed by 'Security Settings'. Now click on 'Local Policies' and then 'Security Options'.

On the right hand side of the group policy editor, if you scroll to the bottom and find the option 'User Account Control: Behavior of the elevation prompt for administrators in Admin Approval Mode' (3rd option down in the cluster of the User Account Control settings) and then double click. In the drop down box, select the 'Elevate without prompting' option.

In Windows 8, this is essentially the same as if UAC had been disabled, (ignoring the other aspects of UAC obviously). Though, in your situation, this may negate the need to have to do one of the two things mentioned in my previous post, and as other people have mentioned in the thread as well.

Give it a go. It may work.

Cheers, I see what this does, but again it's a bit of a work around rather than a solution I feel.

What I don't understand is why TS3 and SWTOR require elevation in the first place? Clearly it can't be the case on everyone's PC as otherwise forums would be full of folk complaining.

No, I meant from the TS3, did you save anything like identities and such stuff and use in your new install of TS3

Nothing, completely fresh install.

 

[Danny091]

I remember when i used to play TERA that game used to run as Admin as a result you had to run TS or Vent as admin too otherwise the Push to talk button was blocked from being read by the ventrilo program as you were full screen in tera it had priority or something like that. Guess its the same for you with SWTOR. In the end i bit the bullet and went into the compatibility mode options and told it to always run vent as administrator. I don't think they ever fixed the problem.
Sounds like you might also have to just tell it to always run TS3 as administrator automaticly.

(This was on Windows 7)

Found this on the SWTOR forums from a dev guy responding to someone with the same problem as you.

Greetings Redcorn,

The game does need to run with administrator privileges and this is unlikely to change. Running Setpoint and Teamspeak with admin rights may help resolve the problem you are seeing. As you may be aware, we are unable to troubleshoot third party products with regard to interoperability with administrator privileges.

We do hope you can get your setup working while using admin rights.

 

[Infidelus]

I'm not ranting mate, just disappointed that people tell me how to use my computer when I couldn't care less. I may send them an email, cheers.

Rant was maybe a poor choice of words. I do agree with some of the other posters saying turning off UAC may not be the wisest choice, but at the end of the day it's your machine, and how you use it is entirely up to you (whether we (collectively) agree with that choice or not )

 

[hyperst]

I remember when i used to play TERA that game used to run as Admin as a result you had to run TS or Vent as admin too otherwise the Push to talk button was blocked from being read by the ventrilo program as you were full screen in tera it had priority or something like that. Guess its the same for you with SWTOR. In the end i bit the bullet and went into the compatibility mode options and told it to always run vent as administrator. I don't think they ever fixed the problem.
Sounds like you might also have to just tell it to always run TS3 as administrator automaticly.

(This was on Windows 7)

Found this on the SWTOR forums from a dev guy responding to someone with the same problem as you.

Well at least we now know what the problem is, it's not TS3, it's the game needing admin which in turn requires admin for TS3, I guess it works fine with other games that do not require admin(may have been covered all ready)

 

[ChrisD.]

I remember when i used to play TERA that game used to run as Admin as a result you had to run TS or Vent as admin too otherwise the Push to talk button was blocked from being read by the ventrilo program as you were full screen in tera it had priority or something like that. Guess its the same for you with SWTOR. In the end i bit the bullet and went into the compatibility mode options and told it to always run vent as administrator. I don't think they ever fixed the problem.
Sounds like you might also have to just tell it to always run TS3 as administrator automaticly.

(This was on Windows 7)

Found this on the SWTOR forums from a dev guy responding to someone with the same problem as you.

Top stuff, thanks. I was going to go search their forums tonight.

 

[Swifty55]

Currently have to run Mumble and PS2 in admin mode or neither will work together.

 

[yashiro]

You can run SWTOR in non admin mode. Someone wrote a .vbs script to do the very thing. I can probably dig it out if you really need it. A search about 'swtorsteam' may uncover it via google.

 

[ChrisD.]

You can run SWTOR in non admin mode. Someone wrote a .vbs script to do the very thing. I can probably dig it out if you really need it. A search about 'swtorsteam' may uncover it via google.

Thanks. Points to door dev team then?