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JUMPURS said:I missed that post
it is things like this how weird and wonderfull rumours get started.
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I only post facts. Bluray is outselling hddvd 2:1 and has the majority of studio support.
It is one of those internet myths (first started by anandtech a few months ago in this particular incidence)
Blueray is being used by the pron industry, its just that Sony are also doing Disney films and their requirement (for obvious reasons) is that any replicating plant that produce disney films do NOT press any pron films.
As Blu-ray plants are still pretty rare.........this is where the myth started
I fully support both discs currently (ps3, x360 drive -about to be sold- and new toshiba hd-e1 ) while the pictures are great , and imo you will see more difference between them and sd-dvd on much larger screens than most of us are able /lucky to have, its the hd sound that really blows you away, just so much better imo
Blueray is being used by the pron industry, its just that Sony are also doing Disney films and their requirement (for obvious reasons) is that any replicating plant that produce disney films do NOT press any pron films.
As Blu-ray plants are still pretty rare.........this is where the myth started
I fully support both discs currently (ps3, x360 drive -about to be sold- and new toshiba hd-e1 ) while the pictures are great , and imo you will see more difference between them and sd-dvd on much larger screens than most of us are able /lucky to have, its the hd sound that really blows you away, just so much better imo
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What people don't realise is that most review sites base there reviews on US and Jap facts, not UK/Europe. If you look at the number of films released in the US, BR wins at the moment, but if you look at UK/EU neither format is exactly being pushed.
BUT if you take into account the current region free-ness of HDDVD, the UK ends up with a much larger choice. If you have HDDVD, you find a film you want is on BR in the UK, you may find it is distributed by someone else in Japan and published on HDDVD. This you can import and play. If it was the other way around and you have BR, and you want a UK HDDVD which is BR from Japan, it won't work.
This ability to import disks is what helped push DVD to where it is now, and hopefully it will do the same for HDDVD.
BUT if you take into account the current region free-ness of HDDVD, the UK ends up with a much larger choice. If you have HDDVD, you find a film you want is on BR in the UK, you may find it is distributed by someone else in Japan and published on HDDVD. This you can import and play. If it was the other way around and you have BR, and you want a UK HDDVD which is BR from Japan, it won't work.
This ability to import disks is what helped push DVD to where it is now, and hopefully it will do the same for HDDVD.
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El_Watcher said:
I have two bluray films from the US playing in my uk ps3. Fox Studios are I think the only major studio on bluray incorporating region codes. The rest are free.
The PS3 effect is about to start in europe.
johnnyfive said:
Up your self much?
BluRay has more exclusive studio backing yes, but hardly enough to make it win the "format war", not that there really is such a thing.
HD-DVD has better exclusive backing if you like your movies, and all the other good studios are supporting both.
HD-DVD players are cheaper, almost by half the price of BluRay in some cases.
Then that leaves the 10million or so 360 owners who can just go and buy an add-on for £130 and they've got an HD-DVD player.
that alone is a big plus for HD-DVD right now, and a lot of people with HD-DVD add-ons simply wouldn't of bought stand alone players because of the price, but the add-on has brought HD-DVD to a big market for a very low price.
In the end, Dual format discs and players will win the day.
But obviously you're never wrong.
I'm not even going to bother getting into a further debate with an ignorant person such as your self who loves to blow their own trumpet, you think you're right and nothing is going to change your mind.
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Mr_White said:
HD-DVDs only hope more like. Dual format anything is a waste of space imo. There needs to be a winner so all my cases look the same.
Just remember in a couple of years to think....that johnnyfive was right. I follow these things all the time and I'm never "usually" wrong.
I am so sure on this I have to be arrogant in this matter. So for that I do apoligise.
Mr_White said:
last time I checked less than 200,000 had sold. Half a job as well might I add with no hdmi. Just hope to god they never turn the ICT flag on films else these addons will be useless
There are over 3million potential bluray players in the world. With this the HD ERA you would be mad not to take advantage of this on your ps3.
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johnnyfive said:
Yes, in a few years time when the format winner is more apparent, myself and all these other members are actually going to sit there and think - "johnnyfive was right"
I'm not really fussed who wins as I don't have either player yet, but my god, if you are wrong and still here in a few years time I will laugh and laugh.
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never wrong with format wars.
I have a nack for knowing what will come out on top. I have never even held an SACD in my life so that should give you all the conclusive proof you need regarding my powers.
I have a nack for knowing what will come out on top. I have never even held an SACD in my life so that should give you all the conclusive proof you need regarding my powers.
Okay guys, stop bickering.
Next time you are in HMV go to the next-gen HD shelves and look at Blu-Ray and HD-DVD side by side. Then honestly tell me which of these 2 formats currently have the best movies out.
I honestly don't see how anyone can say that Blu-Ray currently has a better selection of films than HD-DVD, so if you are happy with HD-DVD's choices of film then get a HD-DVD add-on.
Next time you are in HMV go to the next-gen HD shelves and look at Blu-Ray and HD-DVD side by side. Then honestly tell me which of these 2 formats currently have the best movies out.
I honestly don't see how anyone can say that Blu-Ray currently has a better selection of films than HD-DVD, so if you are happy with HD-DVD's choices of film then get a HD-DVD add-on.
johnnyfive said:
lol, I'm sorry. You're a fool. Nobody can ever predict what is going to win every time.
You never owned a Saturn? Dreamcast? Jaguar? 3DO? Minidisc? Betamax? PSP? UMD?
Those are just off the top of my head.
Also, SACD's are very good, so more fool you for not having one.
Phate said:
True, he has a point about sales figures of Blu-Ray discs and Blu-Ray players.
I don't think he said he was always right, I thought he said he was ususally right on matters like this. Anyway, obviously no-one is right all of the time. Anyway, I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist.
My personal opinion is that Blu-Ray will win as well. Major factors being the use of the VC-1 codec, ever increasing interactve menus, more studios than their rival has managed to secure, and the fact that every Playstation 3 console comes with the player built in is a massive boost for the format and Sony on the whole as a result.
I'm not a fan boy and have not solely parted for one company or the other. I've got an Xbox360 and Wii and will be getting a Playstation 3 in the summer. But I cannot see HD-DVD winning the war based upon the numerous articles I have read and as a result will not be investing in the technology. But that's my choice and my personal opinion and I will stick by it until further information suggests otherwise.
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NokkonWud said:
UMD was hardly a serious movie format was it. And 20million psps sold doesn't sound like failure.
Just because there are only two handheld consoles doesn't mean one of them has to be a loser. They are aimed a totally different markets.
With the main movie format the public will only allow one to work. Just the way it is.
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NokkonWud said:Okay guys, stop bickering.
Next time you are in **competitor tut tut** go to the next-gen HD shelves and look at Blu-Ray and HD-DVD side by side. Then honestly tell me which of these 2 formats currently have the best movies out.
I honestly don't see how anyone can say that Blu-Ray currently has a better selection of films than HD-DVD, so if you are happy with HD-DVD's choices of film then get a HD-DVD add-on.
tbh in my local one of those shops they have about 6 blu-Ray films and 1 HD-DVD. I wished they would get more in.
TBH i personally have been looking a lot at both formats on a usa.com web sites, looking for Blu-Ray movies but also looking at the HD-DVD's and to be fair, neither format has any movies that jump 'BUY ME' to me, besides Bullitt and Casino Royale. I bought CR, and will get Bullitt eventually, just don't see how that movie (My fav of all time btw) will benefit in HD.
But there are some big hitters still to come for BluRay exclusives. I mean the Spider-Man movies will be huge on BD. Also pirates is an exlcusive to BluRay, and that will be a Mega Trilogy too. Now if only Sony could get more game exclusives lol
If HD-DVD had more backing etc i would probably buy a stand alone HD-DVD player, but for me, it just doesn't have the movies. and i wouldn't be surprised if Universal go dual format before the year is up.
I personally can't see Dual format being the way to go, and personally would rather one format became the norm, and the sooner the better imo.
Bobbler said:
I see a lot of people saying that, and i thought it too, and i have been thinking and i just can't see it. The movie studios want the only for rent, not to buy.
I can see the Download on Demand thing taking over from maybe the likes of Sky Box office. But a movie in 1080p with 7.1 or even 5.1 surround sound on a format that will play no matter what device you have, just wont be anything manageable by a download. Even 720p for a quick fix is gonna be in the Gigs, and web download speeds are levelling off now.
Least if you buy a BD or HD-DVD then you know it will work on your BD or HD-DVD player no matter what. But with on demand stuff, it'll only work on some devices as some use MP4 some use WMV etc.
Also not many people have the ability to stream their media to their TV.