Helldivers 2
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He's right though? You've made up your mind already.
Eh? I'm not casting an opinion on the game itself - I've played a little of it, just a little amused by the hype it is getting, at least in some quarters, as if it is doing something new and groundbreaking.
Caporegime
Its not for eveyone one, nothing ever is but its one of very few games in the last decade that i want to play because i'm having a blast playing it, i don't just play it because i own it and its ok i guess.....
If we could describe the recipe of exactly how they achieved that we would all be over night successful publishers.
I like you have a game development hobby, like you i don't know the recipe but wished i did, some people are just pros on another level.
The art stile, the sound design, the gun play mechanics, the voice overs, its pace...... all of it is just brilliant.
Oh... and it doesn't even have RTX, no one cares.... its a game, not a justification for a GPU purchase.
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Caporegime
No, they are practically the same GPU.
If i was you i would be on an Ebay hunt for a used RX 6600 / RTX 2060 + i5 10600 / Ryzen 3060 or better hunt.
Not sure the game supports anything older than nVidia 10 series, let alone SLI. (EDIT: Apparently are people running it on 980s, etc.)
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Caporegime
I don't know how it looks on low settings, i'm fortunate enough to have a GPU that can easily run this maxed out native at 1440P.
At those settings its a good looking game, i can't speak for your other cited games but this looks way better than Starfield, some bits of Starfield look ok, some bits of it look like crap.
I will agree tho its probably not very well optimised and probably looks like garbage on low settings, it is the lighting, the shading, all the volumetrics and texture quality that make this game look good, you would lose all of that on low settings.
1440P native, highest settings.
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Associate
Is it badly optimised? I've got friends playing on a 1070Ti with an i7 7700k (so 8 year old hardware at this point) all running at 60fps on medium/low settings and it runs fine for them.
A GTX 1060 laptop - assuming it's a 3GB model - is just not up to standard for a game that's come out in 2024. Your laptop might be 6 years old but the mobile 1060 chip came out in 2016 - so it's 8 years old at this point.
Maybe worth grabbing a PS5 and playing it on that? They can be bought for 400 quid now and there's a few places selling the console with a copy of Helldivers 2.
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I played it on low for a while due to the crashing bug on AMD and honestly - it was absolutely fine, actually thought it looked pretty good seeing as it had every single settle as low as it could go or with effect disabled and that was at 3440x1440 !
Soldato
To me, it’s a game that has been designed around fun. Not creating something with a depth that only hardcore grinders appreciate, but not super light that only appeals to the casuals. The movement, gunplay, stratagems all play as if they’ve been designed around what is fun, not mechanics for the sake of mechanics.
They haven’t shoe’d in the same mob in different colours to try and show that they have 500 different types of enemies, they’ve focussed on core set of enemy units that have their own behaviours and characteristics.
They haven’t thrown in 500 guns with marginal differences, they’ve focussed on guns that have their own - and fun - play style.
It’s not about whether they’ve broken new ground (Altho I’m not aware of how many 4 player coop, procedurally generated large maps, third person, horde fighting games there are), it’s about the user experience - which is something that often comes second to shareholder expectations in more recent years.
Altho for the games this could be compared to (Left4Dead, Darktide etc), there’s an element of having a huge procedurally generated map rather than the same corridors you retrace every game that manages to create a unique experience each time you play it.
Soldato
I was going to say much the same, but I’m aware of how much of a horrid fan boy I am for this game
8gb vram on the 1060
Yeah but I mean older games look far better than it does at higher fps
It's weird to have to turn things down to 2007 visuals to play on 2016 hardware. If you know what I mean
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Caporegime
Agreed, also, add Serious Sam 1,2 and 3 to that list.
Its the need not only to monetize games these days, Helldivers 2 has micro transactions, but you never feel like you're missing out on half the fun because you don't have something that costs real money.
If this was an Ubisoft or EA game it would be $70 all the good Strategem's and guns would be behind $10+ each paywalls, you would be stuck with a useless pew pew gun and very little in the way of orbital support watching whales kitted out with all the gear dumping centuries everywhere and blowing the crap out of evrything with orbital strikes.
Games these days are all about money men dictating how to maximise profits with 0 credence given to fun.
This game is good because its as you say designed fun first, that's so old fashioned....
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Associate
8gb? The 1060 had a 6gb and 3gb version - but even the 6gb version is going to struggle. '
But yeah - I get what you mean.
Sorry 6 hit wrong button
It's just kind of hilarious How BAD the gfx have to be, like oblivion on release seems 10 years better to get 30fps.
Low quality effects esentialy replaces gun fire/lazers etc with doom sprites with 3-4 mm pixel sizes on a 17inch screen
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Caporegime
Reduce your power target by 5%. if it is boosting too high that might stop it.
Soldato
What’s the rest of the laptop spec?
17-7700hq 16gb and running off an ssd 1080p
Like I say I know its old it's just honestly bc2 looked loads better at the same fps on the same machine.
Giving it a test on the big pc (no smoke this time!) It is not better lol.
Edit take that back lot more stable and looks better on 1440p
Like I say I know its old it's just honestly bc2 looked loads better at the same fps on the same machine.
Giving it a test on the big pc (no smoke this time!) It is not better lol.
Edit take that back lot more stable and looks better on 1440p
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