Help Help!!! Overclocking Noob in distress

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I think this could be a case of a little bit of knowledge can be dangerous.

Anyhow I might as well post my spec up first

E6600
Zelman CNPS9500-AT Aero Flower
2gb Geil PC6400C4 800MHz DDR2 (I know this ram can be problematic)
Gigabyte DS4


I’ve had a read through a few guides and decided to try to take my E6600 to 3.2GHz. Anyhow at first I set the processor to 1.45 volts and it wouldn’t even post. Then I set it to 1.487 and the PC seemed to be fine it booted into windows it was reasonably cool until I tried to run orthos to stress test it. It lasted about a second before it threw up an error.

I’ve currently got my processor set to 8x400 @ 1.487volts and my memory set to 4-4-4-12 @ +0.3volts which I think is 2.1volts. I’ve tried setting the chip to 1.5volts it still threw up an error in orthos so I took the voltage back a bit as I’ve read 1.5 is about the limit for air cooling there was no point in leaving it that high if it is making no difference. I also tried my ram at 5-5-5-15 to no avail so I’ve set it back to 4-4-4-12.

Now me being a noob an all I’ve set my bios to what I thought was correct but it could be all completely wrong for all I know. So I was wondering if you guys could have a look over it to see if there’s anything I’ve missed

Rather than cluttering the forum up with loads of pictures I’ve put them in my web space below

http://www.kenegie.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wolvotim/oc/overclockprobs.html
 
Those voltages look a bit high for 3.2ghz :( Try setting a vcore of 1.4 also knock the (G)MCH voltage and the FSB voltage up to +0.15. You should also set the PCI-E frequency to 101mhz ;)
For the best overclock you should also disable EIST, Halt (C1E), Thermal Monitor 2 ( you can find these options in advanced bios setting).
Some people also find disabling Legacy USB storage detect helps (this option can be found in Intergrated peripherals bios menu).
Hope this helps :) One more thing remeber to monitor temps with TAT or core temp, you dont wont to go over about 65c under full load (you can test your systems stability and put it under load using orthos)
 
Not wanting to be rude because I know you are just trying to help but did you read all my post or look at the pics in the link??

Anyway the items you recommended to disable I’d already done but I did try knocking back the processor voltage to 1.4 and knocked the mch and fbs voltages back to +0.15 from +0.2volts which I had them set to and set the pci-e to 101mhz. I hit F10 to save the settings and rebooted or at least tried to. I just got a series of really fast bleeps then it cut out then tried to start then cut out again. It kept on doing this cycle until I switched it off from the back of the PSU. I had to reset the cmos to get it to boot.
 
Hi mate i have a similar set up as you to get 3.2ghz you should set ram to 4,4,4,12 +0.3v, set fsb to 400mhz, multi to 8, ram divider to x2, pciexpress bus to 100mhz. Set cpu voltage to 1.3500v, 1.45 or 1.5v is way too high for 3.2ghz.
I didnt change my mch and fsb volts but if u have too then +0.1v each should be enough. This is all i did to get 3.2ghz orthos stable.

Before u overclock the cpu memtest that geil ram at 4,4,4,12 +0.3v to see if it is one of the damaged sets, my first set was knackered orthos would crash after a couple of minutes, second set is fine, once u know the ram is ok then u go and overclock the cpu.
 
danoliver1 said:
Hi mate i have a similar set up as you to get 3.2ghz you should set ram to 4,4,4,12 +0.3v, set fsb to 400mhz, multi to 8, ram divider to x2, pciexpress bus to 100mhz. Set cpu voltage to 1.3500v, 1.45 or 1.5v is way too high for 3.2ghz.
I didnt change my mch and fsb volts but if u have too then +0.1v each should be enough. This is all i did to get 3.2ghz orthos stable.

Before u overclock the cpu memtest that geil ram at 4,4,4,12 +0.3v to see if it is one of the damaged sets, my first set was knackered orthos would crash after a couple of minutes, second set is fine, once u know the ram is ok then u go and overclock the cpu.
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Well ive got all the same settings as you've listed there apart from the cpu voltage.

Ram +0.3v 4-4-4-12
Ram divider 2
CPU 1.487v
Multi 8
FBS 400
PCI-E 100mhz


Its seems weird that it will start at 1.48v (but not orthos stable) but at 1.4v it thows a compleat flid and wont even post and i have to reset the cmos to get it started.

Does this suggest a processor that just does not like being overclocked or could it be a memory problem??

i'll try the memtest when i get home
 
Write!!! I’ve started from scratch. I’ll list EXACTLY the setting I’ve changed if its not in the list I haven’t changed it so if there’s something missing don’t take it for granted I’ve changed it.

Legacy USB Storage Detect: Disabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E): Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2): Disabled
Smart Fan Control Method: Legacy
Smart Fan Control Mode: PWM

CPU Clock Ratio: 8
CPU Host Clock Control: Enabled
CPU Host Frequency: 400MHz
PCI Express Frequency: 100MHz
System Memory Multiplier: 2
DRAM Timing Selectable: Manual
CAS Latency Time: 4
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 4
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 12
System Voltage Control: Manual
DDR2 OverVoltage Control: +0.300V
PCI-E OverVoltage Control: Normal
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control: Normal
FBS OverVoltage Control: Normal
CPU OverVoltage Control: SEE BELOW

I started at 1.35v had to go up to 1.412v to get into windows. 1.35v Would just about get past post and it would restart. So I started upping the voltage one by one and it got a little further every time until 1.412v and then it got into windows.

Now although it gets into windows it will only hold orthos for a couple of seconds before it throws up an error. I could keep just upping and upping the voltages but I don’t think its gona do any good.


I’ll plug my floppy back in tomorrow to do a memtest

Any ideas in the meantime??
 
wolvotim said:
Write!!! I’ve started from scratch. I’ll list EXACTLY the setting I’ve changed if its not in the list I haven’t changed it so if there’s something missing don’t take it for granted I’ve changed it.

Legacy USB Storage Detect: Disabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E): Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2): Disabled
Smart Fan Control Method: Legacy
Smart Fan Control Mode: PWM

CPU Clock Ratio: 8
CPU Host Clock Control: Enabled
CPU Host Frequency: 400MHz
PCI Express Frequency: 100MHz
System Memory Multiplier: 2
DRAM Timing Selectable: Manual
CAS Latency Time: 4
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 4
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 12
System Voltage Control: Manual
DDR2 OverVoltage Control: +0.300V
PCI-E OverVoltage Control: Normal
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control: Normal
FBS OverVoltage Control: Normal
CPU OverVoltage Control: SEE BELOW

I started at 1.35v had to go up to 1.412v to get into windows. 1.35v Would just about get past post and it would restart. So I started upping the voltage one by one and it got a little further every time until 1.412v and then it got into windows.

Now although it gets into windows it will only hold orthos for a couple of seconds before it throws up an error. I could keep just upping and upping the voltages but I don’t think its gona do any good.


I’ll plug my floppy back in tomorrow to do a memtest

Any ideas in the meantime??
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Does it boot with the CPU voltage set to AUTO? It all sounds very odd - like the motherboard is faulty. On mine it will run 3.6GHz (not orthos stable, but SuperPi 32M stable) on 1.35V and it's Orthos stable at (400x9) 1.375V.
 
WJA96 said:
Does it boot with the CPU voltage set to AUTO? It all sounds very odd - like the motherboard is faulty. On mine it will run 3.6GHz (not orthos stable, but SuperPi 32M stable) on 1.35V and it's Orthos stable at (400x9) 1.375V.
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i'll try it.


Im just running memtest at the moment.

How long should memtest take?? Ive just got a load of random letters and number down the lefthand side of the screen for the last 15-20 mins and i havent seen a menu or anything yet?!?!
 
Doesn't it come with instructions? I use the one that runs in Windows and they suggest you run that a few hours at least.
 
WJA96 said:
Doesn't it come with instructions? I use the one that runs in Windows and they suggest you run that a few hours at least.
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well looking at screen shots on the net memtest86 should look like this

Memtest86-plus_3.gif


all ive been getting is this screen and i left it for half an hour

memtest.JPG
 
WJA96 said:
Does it boot with the CPU voltage set to AUTO? It all sounds very odd - like the motherboard is faulty. On mine it will run 3.6GHz (not orthos stable, but SuperPi 32M stable) on 1.35V and it's Orthos stable at (400x9) 1.375V.
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just tried running it a normal voltage and it wont even get past post. it just keeps turning it self on and off.

Ive also tried it now at 8x375 3ghz. orthos runs for about 20-30 secs before it throws up an error
 
wolvotim said:
just tried running it a normal voltage and it wont even get past post. it just keeps turning it self on and off.

Ive also tried it now at 8x375 3ghz. orthos runs for about 20-30 secs before it throws up an error
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wasnt it running at 8x375 3Ghz before, and running fine?
 
Something is very wrong. Reset the CMOS and see if it will boot cleanly. If it won't then RMA the board and the RAM.
 
i reset the cmos and everything was fine.

so ive knocked it up to 2.8ghz 8x350 @1.35V and it seems to be running ok now ive had orthos running for 45mins and it hasnt thrown up any errors.

Could this be a sign of dodgy ram? The ram still running +0.3v 4-4-4-12 but is now running slower at 750mhz
 
The E6600 is a 9x multiply not 8 , I run mine (E6600) @ 9 x 361 3248 mhz std voltage.
Try 9x hope that helps :)

P.S. I have same mem as you running at 4-4-4-12 1-1 ratio 3.25v in bios Abit AW9D-max
 
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wolvotim said:
all ive been getting is this screen and i left it for half an hour

memtest.JPG
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You need to format the floppy disk first as a MSDOS boot disk, then install Memtest+ onto it.
 
00NukE said:
The E6600 is a 9x multiply not 8 , I run mine (E6600) @ 9 x 361 3248 mhz std voltage.
Try 9x hope that helps :)

P.S. I have same mem as you running at 4-4-4-12 1-1 ratio 3.25v in bios Abit AW9D-max
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cool mate i'll try that
 
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