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Hi all , erm well the problem im having is ill be playing a game then all of a sudden the computer will just turn off , IE power down , now the heat from the PSU is insane , and im guessing this is due to over heating , am i right in guessing its the PSU and not anything else? , IE CPU , Graphics Card?.
 
If can list specs and PSU wattage and make like rick fowler mentioned would be a grate help.

Couple of things to check though, is the PSU fan running, you can test the psu by linking pins 13 & 14 on the main ATX connector but I would do this with only a fan connected.
 
Thanks for the quick replys guys.

ok heres my specs:

Thermaltake VB1000BWS Soprano SuperMidi Tower - Black
Asus M2N-SLi Deluxe
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 6400+ 3.20GHz
OCZ 8GB (4x2GB) PC2-6400C5 Dual Channel Vista Gold Series
Zotac GeForce 8800 GTS (AMP!) Edition 512MB GDDR3
DGM L2231WD 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Glossy Black
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-Bit

im using a Duo Orb cooler too for the CPU im not sure how u guys rate this cooler >> http://www.pcforce.co.nz/images/COOLTTDuOrb.jpg

Erm the PSU is 600W thats all i know , not sure of the make unless i take out the mother board to check , really hate this case need a new one.

and as i say it only seems to do it when the computer is under major load , like when im playing AOC with max settings.
 
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I'll assume CPU not overclocked, can you check what temps are like on graphics etc with HW monitor or something similar? That PSU should be fine in terms of watts, hard to tell in quality without the brand though.
 
That is cheap, most quaility 600w branfs are around the £70 mark on wards.

Try what I suggested above as this will help confirm if the psu unit is faulty.
 
well i payed £30 for the PSU brand new , so maybe thats my problem , unbraned cheap PSU?
Most likely. PSU specs are normally printed on side which can be easily viewed by taking case side off...



Most important rating is +12V rail. What's yours?
 
ok i think ive found the PSU heres the specs:

600W STORM PSU 12CM FAN 24+4PIN RB 2xSATA
Key Features:
24pin ready 6 pin PCII ready Sata ready
UK Power Plug included
120mm fan for quiet PC
Shielded cables for better airflow and cable management
Larger fan exhaust bigger volume of air
Rear on/off power down button
Over voltage and circuit protection +3.3,+5V,+12V
100% burn in and hipot tested, short circuit protection
CE/FCC/UL approved
EMI filter built in
Retail boxed
For Socket 775; AM2; and all backward compatible CPU?s
ROHS Compliant
Dimensions 150 x140 x 86mm

More Information
Introducing Storm power supply. PSU units with 120mm fan, SATA and PCI support for Dual Core systems. Super silent Fan operation with noise level <23dBA. All retail boxed with power cord.

Specifications
Product Code
LPK19-30 Storm 600w

Connectors
24pin +4 pin +12V | 1 x PCI-e; 2 x SATA | 4 x 4 pin power | 1 x floppy connectors

Voltage Load
600w
+3.3V: 32A
+5V: 40A
+12V: 24A
-12V: 0.8A
+5VSB: 2.0A
 
how old is your psu as over time they don't work as well and considering it's a cheap make of psu it might be your psu

do you have anything else in your system like pci cards and how may drives (hard drive's and cd/dvd/blu-ray) do you have and also how many usb devices do you have on your pc? as they all use power from your psu
i've been running the system in my sig on a ocz 600W for about 18 months now with no problem and thats with 2 graphics cards, 4 sata hard drives, 1 dvd-rw, 6 case fans and 10 usb devices and haven't had a single problem

a good psu is always a good idea, my mate always buy's cheap psu's and has had so many problems over the years
 
Yup, PSU is not up-to-it. If you check, most reputable brand units even their 400W manage better than that especially on +12V rail.

I'd upgrade PSU ASAP because cheap ones have been known to fail dramatically & even taking other components out with it :(
 
ive had the PSU for 2 months so cant be good , i checked my temps as regarding the motherboard and cpu and GPU

Motherboard = 49c
CPU = 57c
GPU = 55c idle......

I think the MB and CPU temps are kinda high not sure what else todo about them ...

i was looking at this PSU is it a good buy:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-031-OC

and was gonna get new case since the airflow in this one doesnt seem to be great , was thinking of this one:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-065-AN

Also can u tell me if this Graphics card would fit in that case no problem , was thinking of getting this to upgrade:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-124-XF

any suggestions u may have regarding the case and PSU i would be most greatful.

Thanks
Tabasco.
 
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OCZ ModXStream range gets good reviews & is certainly better than what you currently have.

CPU temp does seem high. I suspect your cooler might not be up to the task. See, the 6400+ is quite a demanding chip. Might want to get a better (upright) cooler like this

You've got both intake & outtake fans installed in that case? What's their speed (can use SpeedFan/etc to check)?
 
That card will fit in easily to that case. And that PSU should be fine as well.

CPU temp is way too high for idle. That's highly likely to be the cause of system shutdown when it gets to high load as temps can often jump a good 20-30 under load. Depending on cooler, this could be partly due to auto VCore being too high, but I suspect a better cooler is needed as well to really bring temps down.

Not sure about mobo temp, though with new case and CPU cooler hopefully things will just generally be cooler.
 
Hi there thanks for the reply , ive just used a program called speedfan , hope the results can help u , it all gets me in a muddle... :D

fanspeed.jpg


whats the highest my CPU should go , befor its far too hot?
 
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Hmm that VCore seems far too high, though I'm not too familiar with AMD so confirmation on that would be nice. Top CPU temp is really personal preference, and it varies between chips, but I would say it shouldn't go over 70ish under load.
 
ok well i just tryed speedfan again , when ive put the comp underload now look at the temps.... what the heck is TEMP3 ... thats so high...... ill try the other 2 programs out now thanks.

fanspeed2.jpg
 
Yup, PSU is not up-to-it. If you check, most reputable brand units even their 400W manage better than that especially on +12V rail.

I'd upgrade PSU ASAP because cheap ones have been known to fail dramatically & even taking other components out with it :(

+1 to that, my mate's had 3 cheap psu's die on him and the last one killed board and chip

also have to agree your temps are a little on the high side a new cooler would also be a good idea, also check if there is a dust build up in the heatsink on the cpu as that will cause the chip to overheat as well and might not need a new cooler, unless you plan on overclocking:cool:
 
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