Help settle a drumming argument

Neoni · 31 Aug 2006 at 17:30

dmpoole said:
Agreed.
We've asked Neon many times to bring something to the table and he won't.
Its very hard to respect somebody when they are being arrogant but they are telling us how great they are and we haven't heard them.

well im not being funny but from someone who has met me in real life to an internet forum view, is quite a big step. i will post drum tracks etc for you. when the studio is finished.

but then again i will probably get slated on how you think my style or something is rubbish.

SexyGreyFox · 31 Aug 2006 at 19:03

Neon said:
but then again i will probably get slated on how you think my style or something is rubbish.

You will never hear me **** off any up & coming musician on these forums since most people are better than me in their first two months.

PardonTheWait · 31 Aug 2006 at 22:10

dmpoole said:
Agreed.
We've asked Neon many times to bring something to the table and he won't.
Its very hard to respect somebody when they are being arrogant but they are telling us how great they are and we haven't heard them.

I've heard him. He's good.

Dave · 31 Aug 2006 at 22:26

raz0rr said:
Having said that, though, I still wouldn't mind a nice set of Dw9000s

Too smooth for me! I like to have a bit of tension in a pedal.

Neoni · 1 Sep 2006 at 00:14

Mohinder said:
I've heard him. He's good.

ah the video i sent you. i shall do more.

SexyGreyFox · 1 Sep 2006 at 00:23

Neon said:
ah the video i sent you. i shall do more.

Well send it to me then.

Neoni · 1 Sep 2006 at 00:25

dmpoole said:
Well send it to me then.

Mohinder might have it. but it was very rough :]

SexyGreyFox · 1 Sep 2006 at 00:36

Neon said:
Mohinder might have it. but it was very rough :]

I don't care how rough Mohinder is

Neoni · 1 Sep 2006 at 00:47

dmpoole said:
I don't care how rough Mohinder is

Neither me or Mohinder have it. add me to msn dmpoole. ill log onto a diff pc.

SexyGreyFox · 1 Sep 2006 at 16:36

Just a little heads up but on BBC2 very shortly on Let me Entertain You there is a drummer doing a drum solo. This is the lad who wanted an audition with us.

SidewinderINC · 1 Sep 2006 at 17:14

just watched him, got some ability does that kid!

SexyGreyFox · 1 Sep 2006 at 17:20

SidewinderINC said:
just watched him, got some ability does that kid!

I wish I tried him now

He still isn't in a band but I reckon he could scare a lot of people off.

SidewinderINC · 1 Sep 2006 at 17:22

i think if i saw him doing some proper drumming instead of doing stuff for a studio audience it would be a lot better!
with £2,000 he can sure add a few things to his already huge kit (i assume it was his own)

SexyGreyFox · 1 Sep 2006 at 18:30

SidewinderINC said:
i think if i saw him doing some proper drumming instead of doing stuff for a studio audience it would be a lot better!
with £2,000 he can sure add a few things to his already huge kit (i assume it was his own)

Scroll down to his videos on his site - http://www.myspace.com/joeblanks
He even plays with a Big Band.

He's right full of himself but in a jokey way.

raz0rr · 1 Sep 2006 at 18:48

If that Let Me Entertain You performance is anything to go by, then I can't say he's anything special.

Especially that mozambique groove, which was just the basic pattern that everyone learns when they do that, without any variations.
The big band video was a bit flat. It didn't really have much feel behind it at all.

He seems to be a player that values chops over feel.
Not to say that his chops are bad, however, but it often seems like he's playing above his level of skill, making sloppy mistakes, and trying to impress with chops alone.

Plus I don't like his style.

Makavelli · 4 Sep 2006 at 13:25

dmpoole said:
Theres something in that.

Our drummers so far -
Gary - no computer
Paul - no Computer
Ivan - no computer
Tim - computer but rarely used it
Paul - no computer
Cliff - no computer

Daley Thompsons Decathlon for the ZX Spectrum obviously has a lot to answer for.

SexyGreyFox · 4 Sep 2006 at 19:10

raz0rr said:
If that Let Me Entertain You performance is anything to go by, then I can't say he's anything special.

Especially that mozambique groove, which was just the basic pattern that everyone learns when they do that, without any variations.
The big band video was a bit flat. It didn't really have much feel behind it at all.

He seems to be a player that values chops over feel.
Not to say that his chops are bad, however, but it often seems like he's playing above his level of skill, making sloppy mistakes, and trying to impress with chops alone.

Plus I don't like his style.

But all the old people in the audience loved him and won him £2000 so he can't be that bad

He's only 16, self taught and has got a footing on the ladder so I wish him luck.

raz0rr · 4 Sep 2006 at 19:45

dmpoole said:
But all the old people in the audience loved him and won him £2000 so he can't be that bad
He's only 16, self taught and has got a footing on the ladder so I wish him luck.

I wouldn't say he's bad, but admittedly, the average non-musician would see his shoowmanship as good playing.

While he's a great entertainer, I woulnd't call him a good drummer.

But then again, most people would find technical drumming boring.

teh_captain · 4 Sep 2006 at 21:13

Do you think these two clips are boring (and probably the most technical you can get

)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KT6DnzRPic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwrd3khcZbk (can't see the basses but you can hear them

)

Not having a go at previous poster just getting an opinion

Tom

raz0rr · 4 Sep 2006 at 22:33

***_captain said:
Do you think these two clips are boring (and probably the most technical you can get )?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KT6DnzRPic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwrd3khcZbk (can't see the basses but you can hear them )

Not having a go at previous poster just getting an opinion

Tom

DCI people are different, Marching drumming is insane for technicality.

I was referring more to odd-meter drumming when I said technical though, more along the lines of Bobby Jarzombek, Chris Pennie, Virgil Donati, people that are right up there as technical players (some of the few who can bust out polyrhythmic phrases over complex foot ostinatos).
Technically inspiring, but boring to listen to.