Help ! - Why do I always have bad luck with overclocking !?

I presume that's the stock cooler?

You've got a way to go yet before the temps are anything critical, but clearly most people are more comfortable with a lower temp than that.

Bear in mind that Orthos stresses your CPU far more than any application is likely to.

An aftermarket cooler if you haven't got one already might be the next step. Something like the Freezer 7 Pro?

Hmm I was thinking another cooler, but Im limited because I've got my system in a sugo sgo1e, those temps are also with the cover off, so it will only get hotter when the covers on !

EDIT: My current idle temp is 40c
 
Mmm, that does look a tight case!

I guess it's a case of looking around for something that will fit and do a better job at cooling than the stock setup.

You've got a decent OC for a small form factor pc, even at a bit less than you've achieved at the moment.

You may need less v-core than 1.4v to get the 2.79Ghz stable as well, it's just a case of testing now.
 
i assume thats small case you have.

this cooler is ment to be better then stock cooler and is cheap also.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...ooling Alpine 7 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775)

its had some decent reviews heres one http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.aspx?i=3210&p=1

Thanks for that fishdude, I may just buy that.


anyways an update, something odd is happening.
I was testing some lower cpu voltages with the 310FSB, and sometimes it was not having it by reseting itself back to default, but i then set it back again and saved settings etc, then it resets as it would after a bios safe and then says its running at the stock 1.8GHz. i tried again and it wont change, I also reset all the bios back to default, does the same.

Now I cant seem to change them, I go into the bios and its the overclocked settings, but its not saying that when it loads or in CPU-Z

EDIT: Just seems as if its not even acknowledging that the overclocked settings are there !

EDIT2: I just took out the cmos battery this time, working again. wierd eh.
 
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Thanks for that fishdude, I may just buy that.


anyways an update, something odd is happening.
I was testing some lower cpu voltages with the 310FSB, and sometimes it was not having it by reseting itself back to default, but i then set it back again and saved settings etc, then it resets as it would after a bios safe and then says its running at the stock 1.8GHz. i tried again and it wont change, I also reset all the bios back to default, does the same.

Now I cant seem to change them, I go into the bios and its the overclocked settings, but its not saying that when it loads or in CPU-Z

EDIT: Just seems as if its not even acknowledging that the overclocked settings are there !


EDIT2: I just took out the cmos battery this time, working again. wierd eh.

Welcome to the "i've just pushed my overclock to far and have to clear bios by removing battery" club.

I must end up doing that at least 20 times when setting up a new rig overclock
 
Well, I have been playing around some more this morning, I cant seem to get it past 310FSB, I tried all voltages up to 1.45v for the CPU, and still just doesn't boot.

I had 310FSB in windows, but I ran orthos for about 10mins and it reboot, so must need more voltage, at the moment, ive just backed down to 300FSB, its running well on that.

Would this overclock of 2.7Ghz be ok for a new graphics card, either a 8800GT or maybe a 4850 ? Just thinking about the bottleneck
 
well have read many peopel saying 3g+ to not bottle kneck a 4850, how ever i cant see a 2.7c2d being a problem really. anything faster than a 4850 maybe.

Right ok, sounds good. When I buy a GFX card, then I will get that cooler you suggested, a steal not to miss at 7 quid, and I like the fact its the clips, having to take mobo out to install coolers is such a pain, specially in a sugo, practically everything must come out !.

I'll try for a higher overclock when I get the cooler, first selling my other gfx to help fund a new one.
 
yeah that cooler has to be worth a go :) i assume it will be like its bigge rbrother the arctic freezer 7 pro and come with thermal paste pre applied but guess its possible it dont.

does you case have good ventilation btw ? as that gfx cruns at 70c+ at mo as the fan speeds are ony 14% speed lol how ever there will be software out soon im sure that will support that card so you can speed up the gpu fan a bit.
 
Well, I have been playing around some more this morning, I cant seem to get it past 310FSB, I tried all voltages up to 1.45v for the CPU, and still just doesn't boot.

I had 310FSB in windows, but I ran orthos for about 10mins and it reboot, so must need more voltage, at the moment, ive just backed down to 300FSB, its running well on that.

Would this overclock of 2.7Ghz be ok for a new graphics card, either a 8800GT or maybe a 4850 ? Just thinking about the bottleneck

Have you tried just going in at 333fsb with settings as they are?

Sometimes you get an FSB hole where it won't boot at a given FSB, but it does with a higher one.

I had this on my 650i Ultra board.

You might be surprised!
 
Have you tried just going in at 333fsb with settings as they are?

Sometimes you get an FSB hole where it won't boot at a given FSB, but it does with a higher one.

I had this on my 650i Ultra board.

You might be surprised!

I will give it a try !

EDIT: Its not budging, I have tried most fsb variations from 300 to 333, and voltages up to 1.45v, should I go higher with the volts ?

fishdude, my case has 2 80mm intakes and 1 80mm exhaust near above where the gfx card would go.
 
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Is there a Performance Enhance option in your BIOS? If there is then ensure that it is set to Standard.
 
Remove 2 sticks of memory and see if that makes any difference.

Ok, removed 2, left 2 in the the same colour slots...

Now able to reach 315fsb, but no higher. cpu voltage is two notches under 1.45v. I havent tested moving it down further yet.

EDIT: Moved it down to 1.35v now, still ok at 315FSB, but not stress tested yet
 
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May I just say well played Cob for helping out with this one?! It's what makes these boards great! :)

Indeed, Cob has helped me more than once too ;)

Ok, removed 2, left 2 in the the same colour slots...

Have you tried reducing the multiplier on the CPU? It is currently set at x9, try x8 and 338FSB for 2.7GHz. In doing this you would need a higher FSB to get the same overclock so might avoid any FSB holes u have but in turn increasing FSB increases the RAM speed so keep an eye on that but i would have thought u'd be safe up to at least 900MHz on those sticks.

This may be a stupid question but given those idle temps being so high... how have u applied the thermal paste? Using too much can have a bad effect.

Note the max temp for that chip is 73ºC, but also u will never reach the max load on the CPU in everyday gaming, applications, etc, only in prime or orthos.

Edit: u should also Disable the EIST function in the bios whilst overclocking (this causes the CPU to throttle down by reducing the CPU multi when not using heavy applications - which u can monitor in CPUz). You can set it to enable again once you have found a stable OC.
 
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Set your FSB voltage to +0.1v and see if that helps.

Tried that, but still not, Im gonna keep the cpu at 1.4v when Im doing these tests.

Indeed, Cob has helped me more than once too ;)



Have you tried reducing the multiplier on the CPU? It is currently set at x9, try x8 and 338FSB for 2.7GHz. In doing this you would need a higher FSB to get the same overclock so might avoid any FSB holes u have but in turn increasing FSB increases the RAM speed so keep an eye on that but i would have thought u'd be safe up to at least 900MHz on those sticks.

This may be a stupid question but given those idle temps being so high... how have u applied the thermal paste? Using too much can have a bad effect.

Note the max temp for that chip is 73ºC, but also u will never reach the max load on the CPU in everyday gaming, applications, etc, only in prime or orthos.

Edit: u should also Disable the EIST function in the bios whilst overclocking (this causes the CPU to throttle down by reducing the CPU multi when not using heavy applications - which u can monitor in CPUz). You can set it to enable again once you have found a stable OC.

I havent tried reducing the cpu multiplier.

I probably havn't applied the thermal paste that great, I seem to have miss placed my AS5, therefore I had to use some white zalman stuff. When buy more AS5 when I get another cooler.

The way I applied it was just a small dollop(not too big, about rice size) in the centre, put the heatsink on, what's the most favourable method ?
 
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