HID Conversion

bobuk said:
Part of the MOT next year, must have self leveling and washers.
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Have you got a source for this? I'm looking to find a set of Xenon headlights for the ST now i've found out they're a straight swap. All I can see is that if they're fitted, they must work.
 
Projector lights should be fine. Makes a massive improvement

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8000W 35W Kit here, ignore the instagram pic :/
 
8000k?

Do they look blue?

I read that the higher temperature (k) the lower the light output?
 
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bobuk said:
Part of the MOT next year, must have self leveling and washers.
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[TW]Fox;22925330 said:
No.
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Might be a yes on that:

"This raises the question of whether these checks apply to vehicles fitted with after-market HID lighting kits. These kits convert conventional halogen headlamps to HID Xenon and they are widely sold and fitted to vehicles used on the road. The Department for Transport considers that after-market systems should be required to meet the same safety standards as that applied in respect of these lamps at vehicle Type Approval. Therefore, in order to pass the MOT test, vehicles fitted with after-market HID systems would also need to be fitted with headlamp cleaning and self-levelling systems otherwise this will be a reason for rejection"


http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/customer-information-notice-cars-2010.pdf
 
Interesting document.

It is also worthy of note that a few high performance vehicles fitted with HID
headlamps that have barely any luggage space and stiff suspension do not
require a self-levelling system.
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Hopefully my car comes under this clause (the stiff suspension not performance :p). Unless it means supercars?
 
Tesla said:
8000k?

Do they look blue?

I read that the higher temperature (k) the lower the light output?
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Doesn't look blue at all as you can see from the pic and I believe it starts to get dull over 8000k

[TW]Fox;22925368 said:
Why post a picture and then tell us to ignore it, if you don't want us to see it you can edit it out :confused:
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Howard said:
What an awful picture, it doesn't show anything other than a blob of light in the middle!
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Was taken by my gf, All I'm trying to show is the light output and colour. :confused:
 
Building Candy said:
Might be a yes on that:

"This raises the question of whether these checks apply to vehicles fitted with after-market HID lighting kits. These kits convert conventional halogen headlamps to HID Xenon and they are widely sold and fitted to vehicles used on the road. The Department for Transport considers that after-market systems should be required to meet the same safety standards as that applied in respect of these lamps at vehicle Type Approval. Therefore, in order to pass the MOT test, vehicles fitted with after-market HID systems would also need to be fitted with headlamp cleaning and self-levelling systems otherwise this will be a reason for rejection"


http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/customer-information-notice-cars-2010.pdf
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Is that a Northern Ireland document?

There's minor differences in the wording between NI and mainland documents.
The NI version states that cars MUST have levelling and cleaning systems and the UK mainland version says MAY have.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/35636/watchdog-unfair-mot-failures
 
Building Candy said:
Might be a yes on that:
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Well, no.

"This raises the question..

... The Department for Transport considers..
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Note: 'considers'.

It is the Departments view and nothing more.

What dictates whether your car will pass an MOT is the VOSA MOT Testing manual which is crystal clear on HID's, Washers and self levelling.

A spokesman for VOSA denied that this was the case. He said: “If a car has the washing and self-levelling system then we’ll check it and it will need to be in full working order. If it’s not there, we don’t check it – we give the owner the benefit of the doubt.”
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There we go then.
 
What about if a person adds HID's after the factory and it was never an option on the car? Must it just then confirm to the beam pattern of any other HID car?
 
There was a perfect opportunity to outlaw these nusence items, but alas UK government did what it does best, and failed.
The crazy use of words has made these after-market kits "in theory" legal.
However as I've said before, and is always conveniently over-looked (but hay, when we've already decided to do something, a little inconvenience....like the law is just a minor consideration, right?) there is no such thing as an e-marked HID kit. So not a single one can be legally used on UK roads.
 
stoofa said:
There was a perfect opportunity to outlaw these nusence items, but alas UK government did what it does best, and failed.
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A properly installed HID kit in a projector lense is no more of a nuisance than an OEM installation. The issue with aftermarket HID's is people fitting them into inappropriate headlight housings, an issue that has been entirely overlooked.
 
stoofa said:
there is no such thing as an e-marked HID kit. So not a single one can be legally used on UK roads.
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Not all aftermarket vehicle electronics require an e mark to be legal. However, I wouldn't fancy arguing in court over a HID being "immunity related". It probably is so you're right in this instance.

I did read up on e marks the other week when looking into HID's. This was helpful: http://www.radiocad.com/_downloads/radiocad-e-marking-faqs.pdf
 
Whoop, guess I'm on the hunt for some Focus xenon headlights then. It's the only real thing that's been bugging me ever since I got the car.
 
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