Hit by car for second time in 2 weeks
- Thread starter weescott
- Start date
JRS said:Wouldn't that make for a rather one-sided conversation? Perhaps you meant "don't post inflamatory bullcrap/keyboard warrior nonsense". That idea I could get behind.
Not at all. Positve sugestions can come from any road user.
Soldato
- Joined
- 13 Aug 2004
- Posts
- 8,369
- Location
- England
I don't get it, you're roads must be really unsafe if your afraid to ride on them. I've never been close to an accident down here. I ride properly most of the time, I just stay aware of the things around me.
Well I got run over today. (amazingly, first time in my 3 years of living here) Thankfully it was only my foot. Bit of a typical french one too - a taxi driving down a bus lane, the wrong way round on a one way system. Sums up this countries driving tbh! 
suicidle_tramp said:
Not at all. I have heard from other cyclist how lucky I have been for not having an accident. In over 6 years of cycling on roads I have never been knocked down, I have had 3 close call's but in general I think people are tolerant and accepting of other road users. Like has been said before. it's a minority that cause the agro. but none the less. Social awareness of proper road use is poor at times, and that goes for cyclists too.
weescott said:
Alrighty then:
Postive suggestion #1 - cyclists should be made to take out 3rd party insurance by law, as motorists and motorcyclists have to. After all, you're riding on the road and you have the potential to do damage to a 3rd party.
Positive suggestion #2 - schools should have compulsory cycling proficiency tests, including a theory test similar to the one required for a driving license.
Positive suggestion #3 - wearing a helmet should be enforced by law.
Positive suggestion #4 - riding on the pavement should be legal, but if you hurt a pedestrian then you get fined £200. Even if you just bruise them.
Positive suggestion #5 - cyclists should have to display a tax disc. Even if it doesn't cost anything, they should display one with a serial number so that the police know who you are if you come off/crash/run into somebody.
Of those 5, I'm most serious about the first 3. I do like #4 though.....
JRS. I like your case
Lopez. your question is a valid one. I shall look for something in black and white, in the mean time i think this article is of relevence to my case: http://www.guardian.co.uk/race/story/0,11374,1154684,00.html
Lopez. your question is a valid one. I shall look for something in black and white, in the mean time i think this article is of relevence to my case: http://www.guardian.co.uk/race/story/0,11374,1154684,00.html
weescott said:JRS. I like your case
I think you're probably the first cyclist who (when I rattle off that list) didn't go off on a rant at me about how what I was suggesting wasn't fair. They never give me a reason why it wouldn't be fair of course
#1. I have heard the "you use the road you should pay tax" arguement many a time. it's an uneducated rant! your point of view i agree with.
#2. Anything that keeps kids safe in my book is a good idea, and something that will stick with them for the rest of thier lifes.
#3. Common sense. Although the CTC disagrees becuase a lot of people just don't like wearing one and as a consequence diswades's potential cyclists.
#4. There are times when cycling on a pavement is ok, as long as you pay attention and are aware of the surrounding environment.
#5. Can't see the harm in it but if it's "free" who would pay for it? No doubt someone would complain.
#2. Anything that keeps kids safe in my book is a good idea, and something that will stick with them for the rest of thier lifes.
#3. Common sense. Although the CTC disagrees becuase a lot of people just don't like wearing one and as a consequence diswades's potential cyclists.
#4. There are times when cycling on a pavement is ok, as long as you pay attention and are aware of the surrounding environment.
#5. Can't see the harm in it but if it's "free" who would pay for it? No doubt someone would complain.
weescott said:
I wouldn't necessarily call it "an uneducated rant"...but it does have flaws certainly, chief among them the fact that bikes cause very little wear and tear on the road.
weescott said:
The CTC can go take a running jump off a cliff if that's the best rebuttal they have for that argument.
weescott said:
That is so rich coming from someone who banged on about damaging peoples cars, grapping people by the lapels and grabbing peoples doors open.
The road is full of idiots, weather in cars, on bikes or whatever. Personally I hate cyclists on the road, they get in my way and annoy the hell out of me, never nearly squashed on to my knowledge, had a couple clip my car thou.
Went out for a cycle with my Dad this morning, and it's amazing how close people will drive to you to get through the tiniest gap. I never realised it before from the car, but it's pretty scary being almost knocked off your bike because some Audi can't be bothered to wait 3 seconds for you to get around a parked car. Suddenly changed my rosey view of wanting to cycle to work in the summer.
Still, it's no excuse for kicking cars or pulling wing mirrrors off though. That's just downright irresponsible.
To be honest, I think cyclists annoy people for the same reason that pensioners do. They go slow and get in your way, when you're trying to do 0-200mph in 5 seconds. It's selfish, but it's largely true.
And yes, there are some selfish idiot cyclists around (namely the ones who ride 3-a-breast along country lanes), but I have had infinitely more issues with people driving cars than I have with people riding bikes.
Still, it's no excuse for kicking cars or pulling wing mirrrors off though. That's just downright irresponsible.
To be honest, I think cyclists annoy people for the same reason that pensioners do. They go slow and get in your way, when you're trying to do 0-200mph in 5 seconds. It's selfish, but it's largely true.
And yes, there are some selfish idiot cyclists around (namely the ones who ride 3-a-breast along country lanes), but I have had infinitely more issues with people driving cars than I have with people riding bikes.
)