HOPEFULLY LESS THAN A YEAR WAIT: New 2018 (MY18) S550.2 Mustang V8 10-speed ordered
2018 (MY18) Ford UK Mustang on the road pricing
2.3 M6 = £34,795
2.3 A10 = £37,595
5.0 M6 = £41,095
5.0 A10 = £43,095
5.0 A10 Convertible = £46,595
This is rumoured pricing but from a solid source, seems a little more expensive than hoped as it puts GT's in the £450 per year car tax bracket.
I would estimate the options to cost as follows:
- Custom pack 1 or 2: £1195
- Custom pack 3 or 4 (includes forged wheels): £1695
- Rear performance pack spoiler: £695 (not available for order until January 2018, so around June delivery)
- Magnetic ride suspension: £1395
- Recaro seats: £995
- Black painted roof: £495
- Paint options £495 and £795 for TY and OF
Still at 41k its a lot of car, remember now you get active DRL's, active exhaust, digital dash and more power etc. as standard. The real must have option being magnetic ride control.
2.3 M6 = £34,795
2.3 A10 = £37,595
5.0 M6 = £41,095
5.0 A10 = £43,095
5.0 A10 Convertible = £46,595
This is rumoured pricing but from a solid source, seems a little more expensive than hoped as it puts GT's in the £450 per year car tax bracket.
I would estimate the options to cost as follows:
- Custom pack 1 or 2: £1195
- Custom pack 3 or 4 (includes forged wheels): £1695
- Rear performance pack spoiler: £695 (not available for order until January 2018, so around June delivery)
- Magnetic ride suspension: £1395
- Recaro seats: £995
- Black painted roof: £495
- Paint options £495 and £795 for TY and OF
Still at 41k its a lot of car, remember now you get active DRL's, active exhaust, digital dash and more power etc. as standard. The real must have option being magnetic ride control.
Probably Ford's thinking, I doubt very few people will just order a GT with zero options. Though the good news is from the reviews I've read it seems Ford solved the rear floaty end even without having to option magneride option, so seems they will be a better handling car out the box, of course helped a lot by the addition of Michelin PS4s over the quite frankly dreadful Pzero they used to come with.
Not an MY18 but a very compelling review about mag ride, really for me its the most important option on the new car if you also want the car to have superb handling out the box.
It is Black Friday, I am trying to buy parts for MY18 and I seriously can't think of much to buy. When my last one was on the way, I think I had spent around $5000 in buying parts over Black Friday period, I had total FRPP suspension, Corsa exhaust, other suspension parts, styling parts.
This time I am really struggling and the only must have item I want to buy if discounted is a set of 350 lowering springs for the mag ride.
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Your sauce has given you OTR price, not price inclusive of tax hasn't he? Or atleast when I spoke to him that was it. I've checked our internal leasing systems and it's 41k OTR.... But our leasing is usually about 2931939139 lightyears behind everything else lol! That'll keep it, with initial tax, under the 40k, keeping it at the "Lower" tax band, assuming NO OPTIONS. as I believe that's £2k of the cost, making it a £39k car. Naturally I doubt many if any will have a base model. and even someone as frugal as myself would have the recaros, (roof I can get painted cheaper), mag ride and A10 for the performance.
Couple of bits to cover off...
EB (2.3) are unconfirmed prices, and speculative. and only a small rise on current. also rebranded 'mustang' the 5.0 has been named 'gt'. EB On our system (note point above) is still standard, MY18 matches these.
Mag ride and other optional extras are fords profit margin for these to keep the cost lower, so I expect the prices listed, to be way up on what you've got there (more like 1500 recaros and 2k for mag ride notably, the spoiler and others no idea, expect the roof to stay around the same). That was satted to me by a reliable sauce within Ford
Also only one "free" colour - red.
Forged wheels I doubt will be a +500 onto the custom pack, or on their own, this is ford, their standard wheels are 300 a corner (after market).
As ever, it's speculative
Also, yes, I intended to right sauce, because this is Heinz and HP level, not big daddys.
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Thank goodness you said that, I was considering saying something but figured it must just be your fantastic sense of humour
Your sauce has given you OTR price, not price inclusive of tax hasn't he? Or atleast when I spoke to him that was it. I've checked our internal leasing systems and it's 41k OTR.... But our leasing is usually about 2931939139 lightyears behind everything else lol! That'll keep it, with initial tax, under the 40k, keeping it at the "Lower" tax band, assuming NO OPTIONS. as I believe that's £2k of the cost, making it a £39k car. Naturally I doubt many if any will have a base model. and even someone as frugal as myself would have the recaros, (roof I can get painted cheaper), mag ride and A10 for the performance.
Couple of bits to cover off...
EB (2.3) are unconfirmed prices, and speculative. and only a small rise on current. also rebranded 'mustang' the 5.0 has been named 'gt'. EB On our system (note point above) is still standard, MY18 matches these.
Mag ride and other optional extras are fords profit margin for these to keep the cost lower, so I expect the prices listed, to be way up on what you've got there (more like 1500 recaros and 2k for mag ride notably, the spoiler and others no idea, expect the roof to stay around the same). That was satted to me by a reliable sauce within Ford
Also only one "free" colour - red.
Forged wheels I doubt will be a +500 onto the custom pack, or on their own, this is ford, their standard wheels are 300 a corner (after market).
As ever, it's speculative
Also, yes, I intended to right sauce, because this is Heinz and HP level, not big daddys.
Ford UK have informed me the tax is calculated based on OTR price. So yes the car is 41K OTR for 5.0 M6, this also means its £450 per year to tax and not £140, this is what Ford told me, maybe they are wrong?
My prices are pretty much spot on for the options, your forgetting when deleting the regular seats, you also delete AC/Heated seat options, as such the cost to change from stock to Recaro is not so much.
Magneride is a $1695 option, the USD generally converts 1:1 with GBP or a little less, the MY15-17 options were pretty much in this fashion with the odd one either £100 under or £100 over.
I've also being incredibly generous to Ford UK on paint options, these will no doubt be less, so where I lose on one, I make up on another, total price should still be the same outcome of around 47k.
My car won't be built though until late December or January, because I've selected Recaro seats and a black roof, such optioned cars are not being built right now and the Black roof option is not allowed on the US configurator with PP and without black emblem pack, yet on UK you can pick this like we could on MY15-17. No rush from my side anyway, May is my ideal collection time and I want it no earlier than March.
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See Ford before, when the initial rise came with tax, told us otherwise. That it was pre OTR calculated the tax value (at 2k) ofc if it was below, they'd rather say otherwise, but I think Ben (slowhand) or someone like that on 6g pulled the facts off HMRC's site and it was pre otr, or that's what I remembered!!!Ford UK have informed me the tax is calculated based on OTR price. So yes the car is 41K OTR for 5.0 M6, this also means its £450 per year to tax and not £140, this is what Ford told me, maybe they are wrong?
My prices are pretty much spot on for the options, your forgetting when deleting the regular seats, you also delete AC/Heated seat options, as such the cost to change from stock to Recaro is not so much.
Magneride is a $1695 option, the USD generally converts 1:1 with GBP or a little less, the MY15-17 options were pretty much in this fashion with the odd one either £100 under or £100 over.
I've also being incredibly generous to Ford UK on paint options, these will no doubt be less, so where I lose on one, I make up on another, total price should still be the same outcome of around 47k.
My car won't be built though until late December or January, because I've selected Recaro seats and a black roof, such optioned cars are not being built right now and the Black roof option is not allowed on the US configurator with PP and without black emblem pack, yet on UK you can pick this like we could on MY15-17. No rush from my side anyway, May is my ideal collection time and I want it no earlier than March.
We'll see on options, have you seen how much it is to buy GT350 seats???? Or even recaro's in general, ford will mark them up, at a grand, they're cheap, but we'll see really.. I expect them more on the 1500 side of it. Even if it removes heated and cooled, it's irrelevant. as if you option a recaro onto a stock car (that doesn't have heated and cooled seats) it'd cos the same as optionining it onto a custom pack less heated and cooled seats. so it has to be the same for both.
UK:US is a 1:1, however ford are marking up extra's so expecting it to go up on mag and auto both around the 2k area as an option knowing they'll be the popular picks with recaros, custom packs and the "Normal" (current extras) I expect to stay the same price, however the forged wheels one, we'll see.
We shall see.
Recaro's are an £1145 option on the Focus RS which is a hard shell backed Recaro, typically more expensive as more racing orientated. Again I expect them to sit £995 - £1495 as an optional extra on Mustang.
I suspect the auto is where they will add the most extra as they know Europeans will go for a decent automatic over a manual if its good, the A6 was not good hence the high percentage of manual purchases, the A10 is supposed to be far superior so expect a much higher uptake and so Ford will try to get away with charging more.
I want to spend around 47k, I will end up taking a bath depreciation wise as it is, Ford need to be reasonable if the car exceeds 50 grand with the must have options I fear its getting to close in price to some of the fast stuff from BMW, we shall have to see.
Forged wheels (custom pack 3/4) I do not mind paying a little extra for, as long as its a little, I still feel the Black PP wheels look better, but no one has painted the forged wheels black or shadow chrome so its hard to tell, but if Ford want more than £500 extra then I will just save money and option the PP wheels and then buy my own set of wheels that I really like.
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That we will indeed
Depends exactly what you're calling "pre-OTR".
The £40k threshold is calculated using the P11D value, which is what HMRC use as the car's "price" for all taxation purposes.
This is defined as the full list price including VAT and delivery charges but not including the first registration fee or road tax (VED).
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Soldato
This is the current Mustang pricelist. The £40K limit is based on "Recommended Retail Price (Incl. VAT)" i.e. 2nd column from right. You then add on RRP for the options.
So, for example, the Manual Convertible GT in red with no options (£39,515) would be £140 VED from year 2 onwards but if you added Metallic Paint (£595) then you would pay a total of £500 for the next 5 years VED (£140 VED + £360 additional tax)
The OTR price is not what the VED is measured on. Its measured on the RRP with VAT
You mean £310 additional for a total of £450
It also includes any delivery charge.
Of course it makes a huge difference on the GT as the first year's VED is £2k but this isn't included in the P11D value.
Soldato
Apologies, yes its £450