House prices rose by another 6.5% in the last 5 months, highest since 2004

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Psycho Sonny said:
Absolute rubbish.

You can buy a home on minimum wage easily if you compromise on area and the home.

Problem is people want fancy homes in fancy areas or overpopulated areas like London.

I know someone who is early twenties and just bought 25 miles outside of London on an apprenticeship wage.
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Hahaha. /r/thathappened


Psycho Sonny said:
Haco wants to continue to work at McDonald's. Yet drive a lambo and live in the penthouses in the west end of London.

So his solution is to build so many lambos and penthouses that demand is so saturated to the point a lambo and a penthouse cost 50p.

Until then it's everybody else's fault he can't afford them.
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Not sure why you felt the need to make this personal.
 
KillBoY_UK said:
Engineering , so a high value earning twice the min wage and still has to stay with mum and dad to save, do you really still not see the issue

"You can buy a home on minimum wage easily if you compromise on area and the home."

Is what you said first, how are min and low wage earners meant to afford a place to live in the SE where most the economy is.

So what are all the cleaners, nurses, Pharmacists , teachers, care workers, retail staff are meant to do ?

Those jobs at those still need doing at those wages and those people still need somewhere to live
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Any time I have seen a job role advertised with London as a possible location it's always had an additional London weighting added to it.

So the same job in Manchester in London you get £10k more.

If someone is working in London and not getting a decent wage then really they should move elsewhere or look for a better job.

London still needs cleaners yeah and it's supply and demand. Anyone can become a cleaner. So you can pay peanuts.

Teachers you make a good point and that is how the market should work.

If nobody is interested in teaching jobs in London then they need to increase the wages for people to come teach there.

If you are doing a low paid job in London or any place like that then yeah chances are you will need to be very creative but nobody is forcing you to stay in London go be a cleaner in Manchester.

People always use London in this argument because it's a ridiculous example of pricing.

I was at a wedding a few years back and some guy from London said he took a cab from the wedding to the reception hall and the guy charged him like a fiver in a black cab. He said he started interrogating the can driver how he could even make a living only charging a fiver and the same thing in London would have been £20.

Well that's the point everything costs more in London and it's arguably the worst place to live.

If you want to live in London you want to be earning a decent wage otherwise forget it.

Anyone earning minimum wage in a more reasonable location can easily find affordable homes.
 
HACO said:
Hahaha. /r/thathappened
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I normally keep my nose out of these sorts of threads but felt compelled to get involved in this one, but just need to check is Sonny one of "those" members who argue for the sake or arguing or should I take his arguments seriously?
 
HACO said:
Hahaha. /r/thathappened




Not sure why you felt the need to make this personal.
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You create the same threads every month on here.

Here's a radical thought. All the time you waste reading about house prices and arguing landowners are the devil.

Take that time and use it constructively to increase your income.

I know that may seem alien to you. But I'm willing to bet it would be time better spent.
 
Megahurtz400 said:
is Sonny one of "those" members who argue for the sake or arguing or should I take his arguments seriously?
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Sonny is a masterful debater and should always be taken seriously! For a great example, just scroll back up and read his post about how someone he knows who once bought a Ps5. It clearly gets the point across and is entirely relevant to the discussion.
 
Russinating said:
So exactly Psycho Sunny's point then; there are properties available at an affordable price, you just don't want to live there (you plural).
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Not really - no one would want to live there - even OK neighbourhoods with entry level housing are LOL money around here and moving further out doesn't improve your prospects as one direction gets into the commuter belt for Bristol and the other into retirement areas where the average is like 1.6 million.

Sonny was inferring people turning their noses up at a basic entry level property because it isn't the latest and greatest but they go for LOL money around here - most places at "reasonable" money are damp and mould infested holes that need like £50K of work to make habitable in an area you stand a chance of getting knifed for looking at someone wrong kind of deal.

To be fair last couple of months a few more reasonably priced flats have come on the wider market - probably younger people forced to move back to parents due to COVID situation - but there is a narrow margin between the extremes here.

PS: Park homes start at £62K around here and quickly go upwards - you won't find one at like £20K or whatever.
 
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Psycho Sonny said:
Any time I have seen a job role advertised with London as a possible location it's always had an additional London weighting added to it.

So the same job in Manchester in London you get £10k more.

Not every job so thats null in void

If someone is working in London and not getting a decent wage then really they should move elsewhere or look for a better job.

Again most people don't have that option, most people live month to month

London still needs cleaners yeah and it's supply and demand. Anyone can become a cleaner. So you can pay peanuts.

Regardless the job still needs doing, 20-30 years a low wage worker could afford a home, now someone with a average salary can't in the majority of cases

Teachers you make a good point and that is how the market should work.

what about the rest ?

If nobody is interested in teaching jobs in London then they need to increase the wages for people to come teach there.

Again not just about London its pretty much the entire SE, for salarys to rise so will your tax's , what about all the other low pay workers governmental or not?

If you are doing a low paid job in London or any place like that then yeah chances are you will need to be very creative but nobody is forcing you to stay in London go be a cleaner in Manchester.

"very creative" what do you mean. How is someone born and bread in the SE with a low pay job meant to move? it cost 1000's just move and rent a new play let alone all the other costs

People always use London in this argument because it's a ridiculous example of pricing.

Again its not just London is the SE as a whole and its a ripple effect

I was at a wedding a few years back and some guy from London said he took a cab from the wedding to the reception hall and the guy charged him like a fiver in a black cab. He said he started interrogating the can driver how he could even make a living only charging a fiver and the same thing in London would have been £20.

Not sure what that means? but a few years ago (lets say 5) the average cost of a home was around £200k its now £255k so 25% in 5 years, the average salary has risen 13.9% so sell people can afford a home

Well that's the point everything costs more in London and it's arguably the worst place to live.

That ill agree on, i don't see the appeal, high cost of living, over crowded etc

If you want to live in London you want to be earning a decent wage otherwise forget it.

Would have to pay me at least double to suffer the place.

Anyone earning minimum wage in a more reasonable location can easily find affordable homes.

Again not everyone as the option to move or even afford to, many are stuck between a rock and a hard place
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KillBoY_UK said:
So what are all the cleaners, nurses, Pharmacists , teachers, care workers, retail staff are meant to do ?
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There is a wage bonus for all NHS staff in London to take into account the cost of living (any wider discssions re: NHS wages aside). I assume there is something similar for teachers but maybe not.

As for the other jobs, they're low-skilled, high-demand, so yes, you'd be living very frugally in most areas.
 
touch said:
Sonny is a masterful debater and should always be taken seriously! For a great example, just scroll back up and read his post about how someone he knows who once bought a Ps5. It clearly gets the point across and is entirely relevant to the discussion.
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touch said:
Sonny is a masterful debater and should always be taken seriously! For a great example, just scroll back up and read his post about how someone he knows who once bought a Ps5. It clearly gets the point across and is entirely relevant to the discussion.
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Only one ere on my ignore list :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D...........................:p
 
Psycho Sonny said:
63 square metres is a decent size.

You might struggle to get water though which is the big issue.

Otherwise if it has access to electricity then you could easily spend the other £20k turning that into a nice home if you know how to use a saw, hammer and a drill.
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You cant be serious :D
 
Psycho Sonny said:
63 square metres is a decent size.

You might struggle to get water though which is the big issue.

Otherwise if it has access to electricity then you could easily spend the other £20k turning that into a nice home if you know how to use a saw, hammer and a drill.
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The building is 33sqm and planning has already been refused.

Existing Building - The existing single storey building measures approximately 33 sq m and comprises a main garage/store with an additional smaller storage room.

Planning History - An application for the conversion and extension of the existing storage buildings to form 1no self contained flat under Application No. 20/03390/F was refused on 29 October 2020.
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