How can PS3 run UT3?

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I went to Game on saturday to buy my nephew some psp games for his birthday and on an impulse i ended up buying a playstation 3 bundle....no i dont have money to burn, i 'had' an overdraft lol

Suffice to say i am now very disappointed with it when i see all the comparisons to xbox 360. The games on the xbox seem to look far better with nice lighting effects and textures etc, not to mention the AA running on xbox that seems to be non-existant on ps3.

I looked into this and discovered that xbox has a revision of the new radeon chip out wheras ps3 uses a last gen nvidia card. If tahts the case and games already seem to run at dire framerates on the ps3, how can it possible run UT3 when that comes out?

Afaik the gfx in ps3 is not directx10 and the unreal 3 engine is gonna be power hungry i just am feeling really down at the moment about my purchase. Game wont let me return console because its opened or i would have got cash back n gone for the xbox 360.

Does anyone have any information on this that might cheer me up, something i have overlooked maybe? Just go to gamespot and look at the comparisons they did, or look at darkness screenshots in another thread on this forum to see just how bad the ps3 gfx are compared to xbox, not to mention it tends to run at double the FPS :(

Shouldnt Game let me return a console within 10 days? Anyone have any tips or advice on how i could get my moneyback? otherwise i guess i could try selling it for 400 on the members forum, cost me over 500 on satuday wtih extra game and accidental insurance cover so would be quite cheap?

Cheers guys.
 
You're over-reacting.

The PS3 is not Directx10, nor is the 360. Look at other threads here - there are some cracking games on the way for the PS3. Some of the current PS3 titles are just bad ports from the 360, the Darkness is an example of this.
 
Teletraan-82 said:
I'm sure it will run fine, don't know what your worrying about :confused:
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Can you imagine trying to play UT3 at 1080 on a pc wtih a 7800 256meg gfx card? Thats all i can think of.

Also the ps3 seems incapable of doing the nice lighting effects and AA on their games if the current line up are anything to go by so game will look horrendous compared to 360 and pc no?

Admittedly i only have 4 games for ps3 so far, resistance, motorstorm, fight night and ninja gaiden. But i can clearly see the jaggies in *** games and my friends copy of fight night on the 360 looks so much more immersive.

Guess i just had too high expectations.
 
wwwebber said:
The PS3 is not Directx10, nor is the 360. Look at other threads here - there are some cracking games on the way for the PS3. Some of the current PS3 titles are just bad ports from the 360.
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I hope so man i gonna be reading through the forum today, tired of the threads on gamespot etc its just flamewars between diff console owners.

This is first console i had since i got original playstation as i spend my time gaming on pc etc, just fancied a change wtih new consoles and tired of upgrading pc constantly to keep up with the new games and be able to be competative in multiplayer.
 
The GPU in the 360 may have unified shaders, but its not a 2900, look at the difference in specification, and it is also not DX10. Just like the RSX maybe based on the same core as a 7900, but with lower clocks, but it isnt a 7900. The darkness on the PS3 is a poor version of the 360 (graphics wise). UT3 is running better on the PS3 than GOW did on the 360 at the same point in time so dont worry about it, Epic have said that both consoles version will look about the same as the PC, but probably locked to 60 FPS max, where as the PC will be as fast as your hardware will let it.
If your worried about the PS3 graphics checked out Heavenly Sword demo, the GT5, killzone 2 and MGS4 trailers on PSN or game trailers.com
 
Although I'd agree with you about the current games looking poor in comparison, it is a bit hit and miss due to the complexity of the PS3's hardware. I believe the Cell is supposed to do the AA rather than the gfx card but it appears that most 3rd party developers aren't even bothering to access the Cell?
Just becasue the current crop of multiplatform games are poor doesn't mean the PS3 is lacking power, it's just not being utilised correctly, something hopefully Epic (UT3) will do?

Take a look at the Heavenly Sword (demo) and then decide then whether the games can get better, because for a first generation title I'd say it looks pretty good..

Also Dirt is supposed to run & look better on the PS3 when it comes out next month, so it's more down to the developers than the hardware getting things right.

And finally it's not an excuse because both the GRAW2 & The Darkness are pretty horrific compared the 360 versions but you do need to bear two in mind, 1) the hardware is completely different for both consoles, and 2) these games are 2nd generation for the 360, where 1st generation for the PS3.

Only time will tell if things improve for the PS3, but personally I would only base the power of the PS3 on first party software. If that looks crap then it's clear the 360 is the superior hardware.
 
jubei said:
I went to Game on saturday to buy my nephew some psp games for his birthday and on an impulse i ended up buying a playstation 3 bundle....no i dont have money to burn, i 'had' an overdraft lol

Suffice to say i am now very disappointed with it when i see all the comparisons to xbox 360. The games on the xbox seem to look far better with nice lighting effects and textures etc, not to mention the AA running on xbox that seems to be non-existant on ps3.

I looked into this and discovered that xbox has a revision of the new radeon chip out wheras ps3 uses a last gen nvidia card. If tahts the case and games already seem to run at dire framerates on the ps3, how can it possible run UT3 when that comes out?

Afaik the gfx in ps3 is not directx10 and the unreal 3 engine is gonna be power hungry i just am feeling really down at the moment about my purchase. Game wont let me return console because its opened or i would have got cash back n gone for the xbox 360.

Does anyone have any information on this that might cheer me up, something i have overlooked maybe? Just go to gamespot and look at the comparisons they did, or look at darkness screenshots in another thread on this forum to see just how bad the ps3 gfx are compared to xbox, not to mention it tends to run at double the FPS :(

Shouldnt Game let me return a console within 10 days? Anyone have any tips or advice on how i could get my moneyback? otherwise i guess i could try selling it for 400 on the members forum, cost me over 500 on satuday wtih extra game and accidental insurance cover so would be quite cheap?

Cheers guys.
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Download the Heavenly Sword demo and the GT5 prologue videos off PSN if you want to see what it is capable of when the game is not a port of a 360 title).


rp2000
 
Its quite obvious that 360 ported games are going to look a hell of a lot better on the 360! Also considering the PS3 is still in early development, so maybe you did buy it too early, or not, just enjoy some of the exclusives that are present at this point in time, motorstorm, resistance, ninja gaiden, ridge racer, think thats it haha!...give it a while and youll see what all the fuss is about. ;)
 
Thanks guys i am feeling a lot better after some of these comments, so nice to get helpful constructive comments rather than 'zomg fanboi go die in a fire' type comments.

I have just moved house so currently have no internet as waiting on BT putting my line in which is partly what prompted the buy in the first place, boredom :)

As soon as i get my internet sorted i am going to download these demos and have a real good go on the system, just wish could view gametrailers.com etc at work, damn their firewall and restrictions!
 
jubei said:
I went to Game on saturday to buy my nephew some psp games for his birthday and on an impulse i ended up buying a playstation 3 bundle....no i dont have money to burn, i 'had' an overdraft lol

Suffice to say i am now very disappointed with it when i see all the comparisons to xbox 360. The games on the xbox seem to look far better with nice lighting effects and textures etc, not to mention the AA running on xbox that seems to be non-existant on ps3.

I looked into this and discovered that xbox has a revision of the new radeon chip out wheras ps3 uses a last gen nvidia card. If tahts the case and games already seem to run at dire framerates on the ps3, how can it possible run UT3 when that comes out?

Afaik the gfx in ps3 is not directx10 and the unreal 3 engine is gonna be power hungry i just am feeling really down at the moment about my purchase. Game wont let me return console because its opened or i would have got cash back n gone for the xbox 360.

Does anyone have any information on this that might cheer me up, something i have overlooked maybe? Just go to gamespot and look at the comparisons they did, or look at darkness screenshots in another thread on this forum to see just how bad the ps3 gfx are compared to xbox, not to mention it tends to run at double the FPS :(

Shouldnt Game let me return a console within 10 days? Anyone have any tips or advice on how i could get my moneyback? otherwise i guess i could try selling it for 400 on the members forum, cost me over 500 on satuday wtih extra game and accidental insurance cover so would be quite cheap?

Cheers guys.
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If you had looked here once lately you'd have seen numerous threads outlining what you have said. The PS3 has fantastic graphics but it's clear the developers are struggling to get the best out of it. It's much easier to make games on the Xbox360.

Personally I think you are mad for getting a PS3 before an Xbox360 anyway with the choice of games available. Xbox360 isn't DirectX 10 either, it's a hybrid, something like DirectX 9.5, but it will do what it needs to do and at the moment it's doing it very well.

Just try trading it back in at Game.
 
NokkonWud said:
Just try trading it back in at Game.
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Bit of an expensive option would lose a fair amount of money i reckon! Id just get ninja gaiden, with motorstorm and resistance youll be fine then till heavenly sword + what ever comes out after that. :)
 
Nanoman said:
Bit of an expensive option would lose a fair amount of money i reckon! Id just get ninja gaiden, with motorstorm and resistance youll be fine then till heavenly sword + what ever comes out after that. :)
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lol, good point. I meant 'try taking it back' :(.
 
I would have thought that Game should give you your money back. I know they put stickers on all of there games to tell when theyve been opened but surely not giving you your money back is against some rights that you have as a consumer. I dont exactly know much about this but ive read some stuff by people on here who seem to know exactly what there talking about but i thought you had a right within 14 days to return a product for what ever reason and recieve full compensation :/
 
zhx said:
I would have thought that Game should give you your money back. I know they put stickers on all of there games to tell when theyve been opened but surely not giving you your money back is against some rights that you have as a consumer. I dont exactly know much about this but ive read some stuff by people on here who seem to know exactly what there talking about but i thought you had a right within 14 days to return a product for what ever reason and recieve full compensation :/
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I called them and spoke to a manager who told me he could offer me 200 in cash or a 250 trade in. But as i just spent 500 on it less than a week ago i am not willing to do that. I was fairly sure should be able to take back within 10 days too :(

to be honest though i think i have just let all these sites etc mess up my perspective and ps3 should improve wtih time so i am actually feeling pretty happy about the purchase after reading this thread and my other one on the psn :)

Guess its just a lot of money which made me worry i had made a mistake, i dont exactly have 500 to throw around. Not too fussed about lack of games at the moment as ninja gaiden, fight night and resistance will keep me busy until i get my net up and running then will enjoy them even more multiplayer .
 
Some of the 360 ports do have pretty poor jaggies n stuff but does it really ruin your gaming experience? Obviously frame rate drops would be annoying but I really don't tend to go looking for jaggies but can obviousley see them when pointed out. My advice would be to just play the game and try not to let the jaggies on poor ports bother you. Both systems have poor ports tbh, has anyone tried plaing Blazing Angels on both 360 and PS3???
 
Joebob said:
Some of the 360 ports do have pretty poor jaggies n stuff but does it really ruin your gaming experience? Obviously frame rate drops would be annoying but I really don't tend to go looking for jaggies but can obviousley see them when pointed out. My advice would be to just play the game and try not to let the jaggies on poor ports bother you. Both systems have poor ports tbh, has anyone tried plaing Blazing Angels on both 360 and PS3???
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To be honest the jaggies dont bother me overly much when playing, its just the fact that i expected the same performance seen on 360 that was all.

However the frame rate drops in games seem to be noticable, as do the lack of lighting on a game like fight night. Seems like a whole different game lol
 
im the same, im worried that all ps3 games will be poor compared to 360 games judging by games like GRAW and the darkness (well the darkness was good, just it had awful jaggies), i might try the heavenly sword demo, see if its any good, although it looks like god of war with no blood :(
 
It's really difficult to know if the PS3 will ever match or even beat the 360 in terms of graphics. The Cell was originally designed to be GPU as well as CPU and iirc the cell can tap into the GFX memory if need be and the RSX into the system memory. It may take some extra development time before we really see if studios start to fully utilise what can be done with some clever programming. I suppose they could have made the whole set up a lot easier to develop for but then that wouldn't be Sony ;)
 
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