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How do drivers in <Your Town Here> React to Filtering?

Discussion in 'Biker's Cafe' started by Nomisf, May 10, 2016.

  1. Nomisf

    Man of Honour

    Joined: Aug 6, 2006

    Posts: 1,379

    Location: Reading

    So I saw this video in the YouTube thread,



    And it got me wondering,

    I learnt to ride in London, where filtering is the norm and becomes natural quite quickly. I am used to a little bit of friction from the odd driver, but nothing more as I generally ride quite timidly and rarely push my luck with gaps etc.

    Since I moved back to Reading however, I have noticed a lot less tolerance for filtering. While there are a large majority of people who leave a gap, or move over I have also been dangerously blocked, verbally abused, chased and hassled once, and even had one gentleman get out and try to push me off the bike for "Breaking the law on queue jumping" .

    I am now wondering if this is a reigonal thing, is it just due to the sudden explosion of summer bikers, does it get worse as you move away from London?

    Curious to see other peoples thoughts on the places they commonly ride ?
     
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  2. Acme

    Caporegime

    Joined: Jul 29, 2011

    Posts: 31,830

    Location: Acme's chair

    Round here (South coast Worthing/Brighton area, and inland a bit into Sussex) people react well to filtering, some people drift out into the lane and make it inconvenient, but that is mostly down to poor driving and observation rather than a deliberate attempt to cut people off I imagine.

    In queue's of traffic I see a fair few people move over to let bikers through, a few don't move over for bikers when they could easily do so, but they don't have to, and I very very rarely see someone move over in an attempt to block a filtering biker, and when it does happen it isn't aggressive, and the person just drifts towards the lines and closes the gap.

    But then I'm a driver/occasional pillion passenger, not a rider, so I don't see the full array of reactions.
     
  3. misterjingo

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Apr 21, 2006

    Posts: 1,476

    My experiences in Birmingham have been mixed. People rarely if ever leave gaps, so it takes a bit of confidence to "push" your way in when needed. When I see youtube videos of London riders, I'm always amazed at the gaps between cars, here, people drive bumper to bumper, and rarely let anyone (car or bike) in.

    I do get people move over when filtering, but I've had nearly as many try and block me. If lights go red on approach, I'll always get to the front somehow. If they've been red for a while, i'll hold back a lot of the time as being stuck in between cars with no obvious gap, can cause conflict.

    Even when I filter to the front, I've had people get angry and try and race me. Not just boy racer types either, lots of middle aged and older men in mercs or BMWs. I can leave them in my mirrors, so it's not an issue ;).
     
  4. tom_e

    Man of Honour

    Joined: Dec 26, 2003

    Posts: 26,843

    Location: West mids

    There's little malice towards filtering round here but there is some terrible driving and observations so people do have a habit of drifting around or crapping themselves when they finally notice you filtering.
     
  5. NooBish AbbZ

    Mobster

    Joined: Mar 21, 2013

    Posts: 2,790

    Location: Fareham, Portsmouth

    From Manchester and to be honest, no problems really. A few people move over, the odd one or two try (half-heartedly) to block but nothing major.
     
  6. MowyTone

    Mobster

    Joined: May 4, 2009

    Posts: 3,366

    Location: Southampton

    Southampton is really quite good tbh. Never had anyone get verbal with me, can't remember anyone blocking me. They are however blind as bats. Dont expect them to look for you on roundabouts or anywhere near blind spots.

    Basically make lots of noise so they can hear you if they don't see you
     
  7. Kreeeee

    Man of Honour

    Joined: Jul 13, 2004

    Posts: 42,104

    Location: /* */

    They all move over despite it not being legal here.
     
  8. TripleT

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Oct 24, 2002

    Posts: 9,398

    Location: Manchester City Centre

    Agree. I found early on that if you do the same commute every day you often see the same people so agressive filtering is a bad idea. I filter, constantly (talking even 1 car at some lights), but I'm polite about it and rarely get any problems. You get the odd **** who creeps to try and block you but a good glare normally does the trick.

    You stand out a lot more on a bike as there are so few of us and the combo of the colour of bike, gear and helmet makes people remember you. If you **** someone off they'll remember for sure. And because you're filtering you're more likely to see people regularly whilst they're stuck in traffic.

    TLDR: Don't be a **** about it and they won't either.

    The bird in the video just came across a **** unfortunately. I'd have gone right to the front personally even if it means slightly going over the line.
     
  9. Freeman

    Soldato

    Joined: Jul 24, 2004

    Posts: 5,564

    I live in a village just outside of Southam which is in Warwickshire. They have little to no clue about bikers filtering and generally don't like it in town. Motorways are a bit better.

    One of the reasons I got knocked off was because bikes are rare round here through winter and someone did a u-turn as I was filtering.

    They're almost afraid, but probably more surprised that a biker is filtering.
     
  10. IC3

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Dec 3, 2011

    Posts: 9,229

    White van drivers and teenage corsa/fiesta drivers are the worst...

    In London its BMW/Audi drivers with their big ego who block you, but since most roads I usually have to filter are 3 lanes I back out go round them, give them the finger and off I go! haha :p
     
  11. Fireskull

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Oct 31, 2006

    Posts: 9,657

    Location: Eastleigh / Winchester

    Yeah they are not bad around here, I'm around Southampton/Eastleigh/Winchester daily and most move over if they spot you, just avoid the avenue though, its far too tight to filter 90% of the time and nearly nobody moves over for you there :p
     
  12. wazza300

    Caporegime

    Joined: Jul 11, 2009

    Posts: 27,065

    Location: BenefitStreetBirmingham

    They seem alright around bham and surrounding areas,never got into any confrontations though,they either crap themselves and violently swerve over or sit there blocking your progress even though there's room for them to pull forward and to the side to let you pass
     
  13. Captain

    Capodecina

    Joined: Dec 1, 2011

    Posts: 18,252

    Location:

    Quite good around here, only had one problem with an older woman who didn't like I had filtered past 10 or so cars to the front and said I should wait like everyone else, almost slapped the bitch.
     
  14. savagesam117

    Mobster

    Joined: Mar 18, 2012

    Posts: 4,834

    Location: Crawley

    Round here, as ACME said, it's pretty good. I'm probably hated by all motorcyclists though as I naturally, no clue why, sit on the right hand side of the lane, making it a pain for you guys to filter, sorry!

    I don't mind it as I know if I was on a bike I'd do it, unless there is some chav on a crappy Chinese 125 right up my arse (happens a lot in Crawley) then I'll be a pain and make it so he can't pass me because I'm petty like that.
     
  15. IC3

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Dec 3, 2011

    Posts: 9,229

    Its legal and recommended, we filtered on the way to the test centre. The instructor said we're both capable judging by our previous riding, so we filtered through. Screw that waiting like everyone else... one biker was waiting, but when he saw us he followed. :p
     
  16. TallPaul_S

    Soldato

    Joined: Mar 24, 2011

    Posts: 5,779

    Location: Kent

    That pretty much sums it up here in Kent, and I do A LOT of filtering to work and back. You get the usual oblivious and looking at their phone lot, but it's been a long time since someone intentionally blocked me. I must filter past hundreds of cars a day.
     
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  17. TripleT

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Oct 24, 2002

    Posts: 9,398

    Location: Manchester City Centre

    Yer we filtered a bit on lessons, I wouldn't do it on your mod2. No point and not worth the risk!
     
  18. TallPaul_S

    Soldato

    Joined: Mar 24, 2011

    Posts: 5,779

    Location: Kent

    Yeah, the more traffic the better on your MOD2! Best thing is if you get stuck at a railway crossing, just let the time tick away :D
     
  19. tom_e

    Man of Honour

    Joined: Dec 26, 2003

    Posts: 26,843

    Location: West mids

    If you get stuck for too long they'll cancel the test as they won't have had long enough to see you actually riding meaning you'll have to go back and do it again, in this case filter if you fail oh well you were doing it again anyway if you pass then job done.
     
  20. Yaayuh!

    Capodecina

    Joined: Nov 5, 2010

    Posts: 19,908

    Herts/Beds

    Okay, some are really good and get out of the the way, to which i have to thank them for. But some just don't care or not looking and on very rare occasions i've had someone drift into my way to block me. I just wait and pass eventually.