Poll: How much do you think the AMD 5800X3D will cost at launch?

[Cyber-Mav]

its a commercial decision

At first they said no to 300 series, to make people buy new motherboard. Now AM4 is at its end and they want to clear inventory so they cut cpu price and they make it compatible on 300 series boards

Wrong.
They still cant do proper support on boards that dont have more than 16mb bios size. They have to use bios with dropped support for certain cpus etc to get latest cpus to work. So it was not a shady commercial decision but a technically limited one.

 

[Joxeon]

Wrong.
They still cant do proper support on boards that dont have more than 16mb bios size. They have to use bios with dropped support for certain cpus etc to get latest cpus to work. So it was not a shady commercial decision but a technically limited one.

They they made it work on 400 series boards with the 16mb bios after seeing the backlash and even asrock had ryzen 5000 updates for 300 series boards at release but AMD told them to stop support so I do think it was to up sell newer boards and I'm sure it was pretty successful in doing so but by now they probably realise those who were going buy new boards would have likely done so already or rather be considering the newer Alderlake platform so now it's time to shift some extra CPUs.

Telling people that there boards will no longer be supported is bit anti consumer as many would have went out to buy newer boards when there old ones were perfectly fine if they had added support earlier and these people were the ones to who had put their faith in AM4 and the advertised socket longevity back when their CPUs were still lagging behind Intel's.

It's still good that support is now being added, just a shame how it's been handled.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

Need to go back to the blue screen keyboard based bios. Probably fit support for everything in 8mb lol

 

[Alan McFall]

How much do you think the 5800x3D is going to beat the 12900k by in games ?

 

[Tee Hee Johnson]

Between -10% to 10%

 

[Alan McFall]

Between -10% to 10%

Tee Hee

 

[q974739]

12900k is the "no compromises" chip AMD used to brag that the 5950X was. It's currently the fastest gaming CPU *and* It offers top tier productivity performance. (Power consumption is arguably a compromise, but not performance)

Still, if it can take the gaming crown, at least AMD will be offering something for the added premium over the 5800X.

Well, no. 12900 isn't the "no compromise" you think. It's compromised in at least three areas.
-Power consumption, which you've mentioned
-Heat+noise. Closely related to power, but seperate problems. Did you want that in a small case in the living room??
-The 12900ks. AMD didn't release a 5950x varient slightly later, but for more money with a slight performance edge.
-The 5950x is a drop in replacement in a huge number of motherboards, which is a huge cost saving for many of us.
-Price. On Overclockers, the 5950x is cheaper than the 12900K.

The 12900K is not a bad chip. If I was forced to build a new machine today, it's an option I would seriously consider. But it's not a "no compromise choice".