How Much!!!!!!

iRivers all the way

I think that they are so much nicer than any iPap Ive seen

Agreed though, that does seem like stupid costs, damn Apple
 
VIRII said:
If this item is under 5 years old you have every probability of a free repair or significant contribution towards replacement.
the onus is on the retailer who sold you the goods to sell you something of acceptable quality and durability.

Hmm, wonder if that would work for getting my lappy battery replaced.
 
Blah blah blah.

Its very easy to bash Apple but you'll find that most companies charge an arm and a leg for repairs out of warranty.
Recent repairs for me have been a washing machine that was going to cost £520 even though I could buy their new model for £350.
A DVD recorder that was going to cost over £200 to repair when again their new ones were about £160.
My daughters I-River cost us £150 and we had a £100 repair bill for that so I bought her a Nano instead.
 
SB118 said:
Hmm, wonder if that would work for getting my lappy battery replaced.

It worked on getting my 3-4 year old cooker repaired, I did have to threaten court action though.
I stronlgy recommend becoming VERY familiar with the sale of goods act and consumer direct. Your statutory rights are really very, very good. Not to mention FREE.
 
Gilly said:
Microsoft are the kings.

At least Microsoft give you a couple of years advance warning about product obscelesence - Apple just seem to go..

*** that - don't want to touch that - £*** Kerching!

Bin it - get an iRiver...

Simon/~Flibster
 
VIRII said:
It worked on getting my 3-4 year old cooker repaired, I did have to threaten court action though.
I stronlgy recommend becoming VERY familiar with the sale of goods act and consumer direct. Your statutory rights are really very, very good. Not to mention FREE.

Got any links reguarding this please? I'm quite interested.
 
VIRII said:
It worked on getting my 3-4 year old cooker repaired, I did have to threaten court action though.
I stronlgy recommend becoming VERY familiar with the sale of goods act and consumer direct. Your statutory rights are really very, very good. Not to mention FREE.


you are correct in what you say however the period of time is not specified and is judged depending on the product , it is not unreasonable to expect a cooker to last at least 4 years but an ipod may well be seen more as a consumable item due to it's low cost
 
Rotty said:
you are correct in what you say however the period of time is not specified and is judged depending on the product , it is not unreasonable to expect a cooker to last at least 4 years but an ipod may well be seen more as a consumable item due to it's low cost

For up to six years after purchase (five years from discovery in Scotland) purchasers can demand damages (which a court would equate to the cost of a repair or replacement).

This applies to pretty much any item of an electrical nature. An ipod is a very expensive little device and imho a reasonable person would expect 5-6 years from it.

Q3. Are all goods supposed to last six (or five) years?

No, that is the limit for bringing a court case in England and Wales (five years from the time of discovery in Scotland's case). An item only needs to last as long as it is reasonable to expect it to, taking into account all the factors. An oil filter would usually not last longer than a year but that would not mean it was unsatisfactory.
 
VIRII said:
Q3. Are all goods supposed to last six (or five) years?

No, that is the limit for bringing a court case in England and Wales (five years from the time of discovery in Scotland's case). An item only needs to last as long as it is reasonable to expect it to, taking into account all the factors. An oil filter would usually not last longer than a year but that would not mean it was unsatisfactory.


I don;t think a court would see that an Ipod was the sort of item to be expected to last 5-6 years , now I am no expert on these but they cost what ? 150 quid ? IMO that puts it in the realms of low cost consumable items which you could reasonably expect to last a couple of years
 
Why not just throw it down the stairs and make a clain on your house insurance ??

Imust admit I'm shocked too, would epxect a mini to last a year or 2 longer than that. I put 3 years extra warranty on mine whihc gives me accidental damage cover aswell.
 
Dreadi said:
zen touch 40gig, they rule, have excellent battery life and are cheap

My mate has one at work and he's well impressed. Functional but a tad on the ugly side. Guess you cant have it always. Listened to it and it sounds better than the iPod not sure if that is the headphones or the actuall player
 
Rotty said:
I don;t think a court would see that an Ipod was the sort of item to be expected to last 5-6 years , now I am no expert on these but they cost what ? 150 quid ? IMO that puts it in the realms of low cost consumable items which you could reasonably expect to last a couple of years

It is not based purely on monetary value though it is based upon consumer expectations.
This is where the negotiation and the Judge come into it. I personally expect a relatively expensive and high end consumer item like an ipod to last 5 years or more. A judge may expect the same longevity from that as he got from his tape player.
The Ipod is commonly thought to be the pinnacle of mp3 players, everyone and his dog has one, they are a fashion statement and carry a premium price tag for what they are. It is these factors that could be argued mean that the ipod should last longer than 2 years and indeed it should last 5 or 6 without a glitch. It has no parts that actually wear outor are unique or take damage etc.
 
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