How to getthe best out of Octopus Flux

I'll be getting off Flux in a few months. My work are part of Octopus EV salary sacrifice scheme which I've used to order an EV. Octopus do a special EV saver tariff when you get a car through them which is 6p/kWh off peak so that will be very sweet when winter comes (assuming the car arrives by then of course). Hopefully the 15p export lasts until then, but considering Flux's day export rate didn't drop this time around and October is expected to see an increase, I'd be surprised if it did.
 
reef said:
I'll be getting off Flux in a few months. My work are part of Octopus EV salary sacrifice scheme which I've used to order an EV. Octopus do a special EV saver tariff when you get a car through them which is 6p/kWh off peak so that will be very sweet when winter comes (assuming the car arrives by then of course). Hopefully the 15p export lasts until then, but considering Flux's day export rate didn't drop this time around and October is expected to see an increase, I'd be surprised if it did.
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It's a great scheme :)
Went to send you a DM, but can't :( have you already ordered??
 
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I have a GivEnergy all in one system with two batteries alongside Solar PV.
Does anyone know what Intelligent Flux tries to do?
My house has high electric consumption and in the winter I expect to deplete the batteries each day (before the off peak rates) 7 months of the year. Based on that usage, is there any value (for me as the consumer) switching to Intelligent Flux?
 
darkblade said:
I have a GivEnergy all in one system with two batteries alongside Solar PV.
Does anyone know what Intelligent Flux tries to do?
My house has high electric consumption and in the winter I expect to deplete the batteries each day (before the off peak rates) 7 months of the year. Based on that usage, is there any value (for me as the consumer) switching to Intelligent Flux?
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I've been on it since early May. I'll be switching back to agile in September, its not a good winter tariff.

For summer though, its very good. Basically your battery becomes the grid, you export most of you generation and they will generally fully export your battery over the 3 hour window 4-7pm although they can and do also export from the battery at other times of the day if they need to. You will see your import energy go up a lot, but also export goes up a lot. You wont be using your battery to power your home you will be using grid and solar generation only, exception being during the times they choose to discharge the battery.

If I were you i'd look at a different tariff now until next spring.
 
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200sols said:
I've been on it since early May. I'll be switching back to agile in September, its not a good winter tariff.

For summer though, its very good. Basically your battery becomes the grid, you export most of you generation and they will generally fully export your battery over the 3 hour window 4-7pm although they can and do also export from the battery at other times of the day if they need to. You will see your import energy go up a lot, but also export goes up a lot. You wont be using your battery to power your home you will be using grid and solar generation only, exception being during the times they choose to discharge the battery.

If I were you i'd look at a different tariff now until next spring.
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Great, thanks for this. My thinking was to stick with the standard flux tariff and charge the batteries (and heat the hot tub) during the off peak hours.
With Agile, what are the off peak windows and prices like compared to the standard flux tariff?
 
darkblade said:
Great, thanks for this. My thinking was to stick with the standard flux tariff and charge the batteries (and heat the hot tub) during the off peak hours.
With Agile, what are the off peak windows and prices like compared to the standard flux tariff?
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I will jump in for 200 here.

Agile has no set peak off peak other than 4-7pm is price inflated where as the rest of the day is close to market price.

Agile can be high, even for all 24 hours, or have significant periods cheap or even negative.
00:00 - 00:30 7.72p/kWh
00:30 - 01:00 7.35p/kWh
01:00 - 01:30 7.06p/kWh
01:30 - 02:00 6.17p/kWh
02:00 - 02:30 5.1p/kWh
02:30 - 03:00 1.32p/kWh
03:00 - 03:30 2.54p/kWh
03:30 - 04:00 0.99p/kWh
04:00 - 04:30 2.65p/kWh
04:30 - 05:00 -0.07p/kWh
05:00 - 05:30 2.27p/kWh
05:30 - 06:00 2.54p/kWh
06:00 - 06:30 4.3p/kWh
06:30 - 07:00 7.72p/kWh
07:00 - 07:30 3.75p/kWh
07:30 - 08:00 8.02p/kWh
08:00 - 08:30 1.82p/kWh
08:30 - 09:00 2.21p/kWh
09:00 - 09:30 1.19p/kWh
09:30 - 10:00 -2.21p/kWh
10:00 - 10:30 1.32p/kWh
10:30 - 11:00 -0.44p/kWh
11:00 - 11:30 0.99p/kWh
11:30 - 12:00 -0.44p/kWh
12:00 - 12:30 -0.34p/kWh
12:30 - 13:00 -1.5p/kWh
13:00 - 13:30 -0.28p/kWh
13:30 - 14:00 -2.03p/kWh
14:00 - 14:30 -0.34p/kWh
14:30 - 15:00 0.27p/kWh
15:00 - 15:30 -1.32p/kWh
15:30 - 16:00 0p/kWh
16:00 - 16:30 10.67p/kWh
16:30 - 17:00 17.07p/kWh
17:00 - 17:30 21.67p/kWh
17:30 - 18:00 25.89p/kWh
18:00 - 18:30 30.85p/kWh
18:30 - 19:00 31.95p/kWh
19:00 - 19:30 21.39p/kWh
19:30 - 20:00 21.39p/kWh
20:00 - 20:30 21.17p/kWh
20:30 - 21:00 21.17p/kWh
21:00 - 21:30 22.6p/kWh
21:30 - 22:00 19.51p/kWh
22:00 - 22:30 19.05p/kWh
22:30 - 23:00 15.84p/kWh

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Last winter it was a lot cheaper than flux, this year may be totally different as you just cant predict it. If we get cold spells with little wind the price can go very high on agile so its a trade off. You can switch to flux at anytime though and you can automate most of the agile charging with givenergy.
 
200sols said:
Last winter it was a lot cheaper than flux, this year may be totally different as you just cant predict it. If we get cold spells with little wind the price can go very high on agile so its a trade off. You can switch to flux at anytime though and you can automate most of the agile charging with givenergy.
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Not sure why the intelligent flux isn't set to automate all that with the GivEnergy system - instead it seems to be setup to benefit the supplier more than the consumer. I guess that would be too good a proposition in larger user volumes.
 
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