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How will Nvidia react to the AMD 6000 series launch?

  • RTX3080 still looks like a superior package
  • Nvidia will have to seriously think downward price revision for RTX3090/3070 or they look kinda DOA to me
  • Nvidia is going to look stupid slotting 3080 ti, a 3090 with 12GB GDDR6x at $899 can still be a valid response
  • Equally so with the 3070 ti, but whatever
  • Would be realistic to assume a larger die / GA101 being rolled out for maintaining the aura of undisputed market leader till they make to the next upgrade cycle
  • There's a long term 13% handicap (atleast) to nvidia due to proprietary AMD tech which will be a significant issue if Zen 3 dominates the desktop base
Edit: purely for gaming apps market
Edit2: position may change after 3rd party reviews
 
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Nablaoperator said:
  • RTX3080 still looks like a superior package
  • Nvidia will have to seriously think downward price revision for RTX3090/3070 or they look kinda DOA to me
  • Nvidia is going to look stupid slotting 3080 ti, a 3090 with 12GB GDDR6x and $899 can still be a valid response
  • Equally so with the 3070 ti, but whatever
  • Would be realistic to assume a larger die / GA101 being rolled out for maintining the aura of undisputed market leader till they make to the next upgrade cycle
  • Theres a long term 13% handicap (atleast, according to the presenter this tech is not yet fuly leveraged due to lack of developer adoption) to nvidia due to proprietary AMD tech which will be a significant issue if Zen 3 dominates the desktop base
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Why do they need to respond with 3090 price cuts when the people buying this GPU either need the extra VRAM or don't care about money else they would have already brought the half price 3080 with 10% less performance.
 
They know mind-share is on their side, plus their GPUs are going to be more expensive than AMD's to manufacture (GDDR6X, huge, wide memory bus, larger die) so they don't want to get into a price war. I think they'll hold their nerve at the top end.

The 3070 won't move either because it's cheap enough to slot in under the 6800 and they'll have a 3060 to go in under that.
 
Joxeon said:
Why do they need to respond with 3090 price cuts when the people buying this GPU either need the extra VRAM or don't care about money else they would have already brought the half price 3080 with 10% less performance.
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Also, as long as there is more demand for this card than they can supply, it is in their interest to keep the price high. Once they start building up an inventory of 3090s that they're unable to sell, they might reduce the price.
 
Now had AMD released these cards at $499 / $599 / $699 then that would have really rocked the boat but as things stand the price to performance has not changed a huge amount compared to what Nvidia offered.
 
Nvidia might have a driver update up their sleeve. If not, they'll probably talk about raytracing performance a lot.
 
Rroff said:
I'd wait for independent benchmarks performance wise - I suspect the 3080 and 3090 cards will trade blows with the AMD counterparts over a wider range of games and testing.

VRAM amount wise and price they've taken the game to nVidia and the 3070ti slot will probably get populated soon.
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But the VRAM has half the memory bandwidth due to smaller bus and slower GDDR6 vs GDDR6X. I wish people would realise that things aren't always apples to apples. It's like comparing processors on GHz vs GHz..
 
Joxeon said:
Now had AMD released these cards at $499 / $599 / $699 then that would have really rocked the boat but as things stand the price to performance has not changed a huge amount compared to what Nvidia offered.
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Exactly, the GPUs are still pretty poor value compared to what the consoles can do. Disappointing, really.
 
kitkat9933 said:
But the VRAM has half the memory bandwidth due to smaller bus and slower GDDR6 vs GDDR6X. I wish people would realise that things aren't always apples to apples. It's like comparing processors on GHz vs GHz..
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Bandwidth doesn't seem a huge issue at this point - though further independent testing is needed - but I have my doubts how well Infinity Cache will hold up in the longer run - amongst other things it will probably require a degree of support AMD traditionally hasn't brought with their technologies to continue to provide the benefits it does.
 
Joxeon said:
Now had AMD released these cards at $499 / $599 / $699 then that would have really rocked the boat but as things stand the price to performance has not changed a huge amount compared to what Nvidia offered.
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Yeah didn't think AMD was going to be disruptive on pricing this round.
 
Rroff said:
Yeah didn't think AMD was going to be disruptive on pricing this round.
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That 6900XT price seems fairly disruptive. They've basically said for the best gaming experience, we feel it should be 999.

NVIDIA then looks away with their 1500 price tag. Normalised at the top end.
 
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