HP LP2475w, IPS 24" Official Thread! (Now Available from OcUK)
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Nice pics, the 'trouble up north' and the side angle shots especially. Thanks for sharing.
I'd forgotten the pleasure of unpacking this monitor: open box, remove large piece of polystyrene and there it is, the panel in all its glory
Compared to the dell 2408: open box, remove large sheet of paper, remove little sheets of paper, remove cables, remove stand, remove little piece of polystyrene then big piece of polystyrene and eventually, the floor now covered in 'stuff', you get to the panel.
I'd forgotten the pleasure of unpacking this monitor: open box, remove large piece of polystyrene and there it is, the panel in all its glory
Compared to the dell 2408: open box, remove large sheet of paper, remove little sheets of paper, remove cables, remove stand, remove little piece of polystyrene then big piece of polystyrene and eventually, the floor now covered in 'stuff', you get to the panel.
Nice pics, the 'trouble up north' and the side angle shots especially. Thanks for sharing.
I'd forgotten the pleasure of unpacking this monitor: open box, remove large piece of polystyrene and there it is, the panel in all its glory
It's certainly a well packed monitor - the box is much smaller than any of the other 24" ones I've had and sent back.
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I'm still having a coupe of issues with this monitor and I'm just wondering whether you guys advise me to ask for a replacement or it's something that I can resolve myself.
The first is when waking the monitor after it has gone to sleep, firstly this seems to take an unusually long time. My last lcds woke almost immediately however the hp takes about 5-10 seconds to wake, then the image will flash on and off serveral times, sometimes just 2-3 times others up to 10. I've uploaded a video showing an example of my problem. The video demonstrates the response time of the monitor, at the beginning of the video I moved the mouse and it took approx 10seconds for the monitor to respond, at which point you can see that the image flickers on and off 4 times on this occassion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXcmr014pkA
What do you guys think is there something I can do to fix this or is it some kind of problem with the input or something else that requires a replacement?
I think the second issue may be related but I'm not sure. I often notice that two frames seem to be merging whilst gaming with a visible split across the centre of the screen of 2 seperate frames. I know you can have issues with tearing when getting too many frames per second but I don't see how it can be an issue when playing crysis @ 1920x1200 and only getting 30fps or Grid and getting about 70fps. It's something I've never had a problem with on any past LCD so I'm not sure of its implications?
Any thoughts, these are still the two main problems I have with this monitor :S
As a note I have had the GPU longer than the monitor and it has never displayed any issues on my last LCD so I'm pretty sure the GPU isn't to blame.
The first is when waking the monitor after it has gone to sleep, firstly this seems to take an unusually long time. My last lcds woke almost immediately however the hp takes about 5-10 seconds to wake, then the image will flash on and off serveral times, sometimes just 2-3 times others up to 10. I've uploaded a video showing an example of my problem. The video demonstrates the response time of the monitor, at the beginning of the video I moved the mouse and it took approx 10seconds for the monitor to respond, at which point you can see that the image flickers on and off 4 times on this occassion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXcmr014pkA
What do you guys think is there something I can do to fix this or is it some kind of problem with the input or something else that requires a replacement?
I think the second issue may be related but I'm not sure. I often notice that two frames seem to be merging whilst gaming with a visible split across the centre of the screen of 2 seperate frames. I know you can have issues with tearing when getting too many frames per second but I don't see how it can be an issue when playing crysis @ 1920x1200 and only getting 30fps or Grid and getting about 70fps. It's something I've never had a problem with on any past LCD so I'm not sure of its implications?
Any thoughts, these are still the two main problems I have with this monitor :S
As a note I have had the GPU longer than the monitor and it has never displayed any issues on my last LCD so I'm pretty sure the GPU isn't to blame.
WRT flickering - ATI card right? I switched from Nvidia to ATI and had exactly the same problem. It's the ATI drivers - never found a fix and caused me to dump the ATi card. I could have lived with it but waking the monitor caused other issues which were worse. The Nvidia card suffers none of these effects.
I've tried a couple of things but I've not been able to recreate the problem you're seeing:
ATI 4850 btw
Control Panel->Power Options->Turn Off Monitor = After x Mins
If I wait for the turn off the monitor displays a 'No Input Signal' box. I wiggle the mouse and I'm back to desktop in a couple of seconds, maybe one 'flicker'.
The above and Monitor OSD->Management->Power Saver = On
If I wait for the the turn off the monitor 'Goes to Sleep'. I wiggle the mouse and I'm back to desktop in a couple of seconds, again maybe one flicker.
I've read of the HP Display LiteSaver software but I've not tried using it.
Do you have System standby or Hibernate enabled ? My DFI LanParty mother board has problems with both of these so I use neither.
What is your GPU ? Are you using a LUT manager ?
Enable/disable 'Vertical Sync' and see if things improve
Mine doesn't do that, but then again, I have it set to only use DVI 1 and not bother searching for other inputs - but it's strange you don't get the input overview saying "no signal" for anything not plugged in like I do upon switching on.
From pressing the power button to getting a picture on my 2475 it takes roughly 1-2 seconds.
As for the second issue, that sounds like tearing, doesn't matter what framerate you are getting - if it's not an exact multiple of 60 you'll get tearing. Try turning vsync on in game and it should solve it.
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Thank you all for the replies
@ Fat Dog, yep its the 4870, however I never saw this issue with my last monitor so I guess it could be some sort of compatability issue with the hp. BTW did you have the ati graphics card just with the hp or with another monitor as well and if so did it display the same issues with that one?
@ecat, I appreciate you trying to emulate my problem especially since you have a gpu from the same family as mine. To answer your questions I do not currently have an LUT manager installed. I did use the LUT manager that philjohn linked to but found it to be no different from the osd settings so decided I didn't need it. As far as standby/hibernation my system will go into hibernation after 1hr but the monitor goes to sleep well before then and the system is noticably still running - can't miss the 4x120mm fans ;] btw I will try vsync and report back.
@philjohn, I have set the hp not to search for inputs and for the default to be the dvi-1, initially believing the flicker may be from it attempting to read the other inputs for valid signals but this had no effect. As far as the tearing issues goes I was aware that it may be that but from the limited reading I thought it was only caused when the fps was greater than the refresh rate. I guess the best way to test it is to enable vsync!
Thanks for your help guys. I plan on trying a couple of things out when I get chance. First up I'll try some other inputs. Also my housemate has a 8800gt but his pc is kaput atm so once we build his new one I will try it out on the hp so see if the nvidia card doesn't suffer the same issues.
@ Fat Dog, yep its the 4870, however I never saw this issue with my last monitor so I guess it could be some sort of compatability issue with the hp. BTW did you have the ati graphics card just with the hp or with another monitor as well and if so did it display the same issues with that one?
@ecat, I appreciate you trying to emulate my problem especially since you have a gpu from the same family as mine. To answer your questions I do not currently have an LUT manager installed. I did use the LUT manager that philjohn linked to but found it to be no different from the osd settings so decided I didn't need it. As far as standby/hibernation my system will go into hibernation after 1hr but the monitor goes to sleep well before then and the system is noticably still running - can't miss the 4x120mm fans ;] btw I will try vsync and report back.
@philjohn, I have set the hp not to search for inputs and for the default to be the dvi-1, initially believing the flicker may be from it attempting to read the other inputs for valid signals but this had no effect. As far as the tearing issues goes I was aware that it may be that but from the limited reading I thought it was only caused when the fps was greater than the refresh rate. I guess the best way to test it is to enable vsync!
Thanks for your help guys. I plan on trying a couple of things out when I get chance. First up I'll try some other inputs. Also my housemate has a 8800gt but his pc is kaput atm so once we build his new one I will try it out on the hp so see if the nvidia card doesn't suffer the same issues.
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hmm I have a HD4870 never had any flickering + wakeup issues with the HP 
The split issue in games, I would call it tearing but that's neither here nor there. I'd not noticed anything before, but that's down to the games I've been playing. I just started playing X3: Terran Conflict, and yes there is some quite severe tearing to be seen while spinning around planets etc. In the CCC I forced vsync Always On and restarted the game, no improvement. I loaded another space sim Evochron Renegades in which I experienced no issues.
Game dependent? Hum. Next up was portal, I trust Valve to get most things right. Oh dear, set to 1920x1200 and quite obviously the edges of walls were moving in layers. I went into the advanced video options in Portal, vsync was disabled. Once enabled the problem in Portal vanished.
Initial Conclusion: The Always On vsync option in the CCC, Catalyst 8.7, does not do what it says on the tin.
Game dependent? Hum. Next up was portal, I trust Valve to get most things right. Oh dear, set to 1920x1200 and quite obviously the edges of walls were moving in layers. I went into the advanced video options in Portal, vsync was disabled. Once enabled the problem in Portal vanished.
Initial Conclusion: The Always On vsync option in the CCC, Catalyst 8.7, does not do what it says on the tin.
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Try opdating drivers. Vsync forced in CCC always worked for me.
However I found enabling it amplified the lag in games. I couldn't live with it.
And to clerify: The tearing in games on the HP is no worse/no better than any lcd.
IMHO gaming was really the place where this screen excelled
However I found enabling it amplified the lag in games. I couldn't live with it.
And to clerify: The tearing in games on the HP is no worse/no better than any lcd.
IMHO gaming was really the place where this screen excelled
That's exactly how mine is setup, and I get the following "startup sequence":
- Push power button
- Input selection/status display pops up
- a split second later desktop shows up
- about 1 second later the input select/status display disappears
Total time for that, from a cold start (monitor was off for around 6 hours) was 1-2 seconds flat - definitely sounds like your monitor has a fault, would be worth phoning up HP support as they are pretty on-the-ball. I can post/send you a video of mine starting up if they need some documentation.
Also good news about the panel uniformity, at 326 hours currently and there is no difference in color temp between the 2 sides of the screen (to my eyes anyway).
I'm looking for a really good 24" monitor, primarily for PC gaming but also to watch blue-ray movies and connect a PS3 and/or Xbox360 "properly", displaying the correct 16:9 ratio (so small black borders top/bottom if full frame 16:9 on a 16:10 monitor) and at correct playback speed (24fps for blue-ray).
Can this monitor do all of this or is proper 1:1 pixel mapping necessary ?
(sorry if these are newb questions)
Can this monitor do all of this or is proper 1:1 pixel mapping necessary ?
(sorry if these are newb questions)
Ive played Crysis, Mass Effect (PC), Supreme Commander, Civ 4 and The Witcher on the monitor and it looks stunning.
360: Halo3, VF5, Ninja Gaiden2, DOA4 all look awesome as well at 1080p. Perfect 1:1 mapping over DVI (VGA via DVI for xbox360). Ive not tested HDMI as I still have a (working) launch day console. Just use the same RGB settings as you've calibrated for your PC and the colours should be fine.
Blu-ray: Die Hard 4, Pan's Labyrinth, In the Valley of Elah, Son of Rambo all look fine. No problems with HD Media.
The only thing I HAVE to mention is make sure you can live with a wide gamut display.
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Thanks cman, I have to say I'm a bit baffled by what the problem could be with a "wide gamut"...from the descriptions I've read doesn't a wide gamut just mean the monitor is capable of a larger colour spectrum ? if this is the case then surely the wider the better ? I don't really understand why it could be something I would need to be careful about so must be missing a point somewhere...
Glad to hear the monitor can play Blue-ray and console games in correct ratios though...this is definitely looking like the monitor for me
Thanks cman, I have to say I'm a bit baffled by what the problem could be with a "wide gamut"...from the descriptions I've read doesn't a wide gamut just mean the monitor is capable of a larger colour spectrum ? if this is the case then surely the wider the better ? I don't really understand why it could be something I would need to be careful about so must be missing a point somewhere...
Glad to hear the monitor can play Blue-ray and console games in correct ratios though...this is definitely looking like the monitor for me
hmmm...well reading through more of the posts in this thread makes it look like a minefield, some people love the monitor and have no problems with "wide gamut" others absolutely despise it to the point they'd rather send the thing back !
I'm very fussy, unless I can get a chance to see this monitor in action firsthand it's probably too risky for me to take the plunge
I guess I'll carry on using my Samsung226BW(S) for a while longer...
so what is your opinion about it c0mdot?
can't fault it. my opinion is possibly rendered useless by the fact that i've never seen anything like it. i did used to use high end 21" CRT monitors (£600 in 2001... mitsubishi something or other) and the picture quality is almost indistinguishable from those and in some ways better. i may only be saying this though because it's been hammered into me that CRTs of that price of that era are better than TFTs. perhaps these days a £450 TFT is actually better than that.
i've gamed on it and i can say for certain that input lag is not an issue for me because i haven't remotely noticed it- and i would consider myself a bit of a 'twitch gamer' in that i like to be able to shoot people in the face with the desert eagle in counterstrike while they are running round a corner.
colours in games are utterly amazing.
i am lost for words and frame of reference- never seen a monitor remotely as good as this, but i will be honest and say that's because i don't know anyone who spends this amount on a monitor and nowhere i've worked has had anything like this.
no faults and no dead pixels, ultra easy to assemble and connect up- took me under 2 minutes.
i do not regret this purchase one bit- so far.
sorry i can't take any more pics, i can't find my tripod for my camera cos i've just moved house.
i suppose my feedback has been a load of useless nonsense seeing as i have virtually no experience of using TFTs but what i can say is, the review at tftcentral.co.uk describes it perfectly and the monitor has arrived in one piece and works fine.
one thing i will note- there is a manufacturing/ assembly error in one of the control buttons. the "scan" button is slightly wonky. not good enough but at the same time i can't be bothered to send it back for that, because it's my only monitor and i'd have to do without. if i had another monitor or i was a business user i'd have sent it back straight away.
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Found it Yesterday at a dealer
I have been trying to get it since it was lunched
I found it but after close examining I found a grey smudge at the top left corner inside the panel under the pixels that can not be removed and 2 lazy pixels, and it was the last one and I have to wait four to six weeks for this dealer to update his stock!!!!!
Talk about bad luck so close yet farrrrr
I had a very very very bad experiance with buying LCDs online!!!
Will never do that
But I found the monitor to really have nice colors and it deserves all the attention(after calibration)
my 2 cents
I have been trying to get it since it was lunched
I found it but after close examining I found a grey smudge at the top left corner inside the panel under the pixels that can not be removed and 2 lazy pixels, and it was the last one and I have to wait four to six weeks for this dealer to update his stock!!!!!
Talk about bad luck so close yet farrrrr
I had a very very very bad experiance with buying LCDs online!!!
Will never do that
But I found the monitor to really have nice colors and it deserves all the attention(after calibration)
my 2 cents