** HTC VIVE PRO - PRE-ORDER OPEN **

NikTheSHNIK

NikTheSHNIK

NikTheSHNIK

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Hi all,

You can now get your pre-order on for the VIVE PRO Headset. Stock will be extremely limited at launch so if you want to be guaranteed then get your pre-order on sooner rather than later!

You can pre-order the heasdet by itself or a bundle with everything you need below!

HTC VIVE PRO The professional grade VR Headset (99HANW016-00) @ £799.99 inc VAT



HTC VIVE PRO The professional grade VR Headset, Hi-Res Headset + 3D Spatial Audio, Re-engineered and Optimized Ergonomics, Latest SteamVR Tracking System

Only £799.99 inc VAT.

ORDER NOW

HTC VIVE PRO - Professional Grade VR Headset - Bundle including Controllers and Sensors @ £1,249.99 inc VAT



HTC VIVE PRO The professional grade VR Headset, Hi-Res Headset + 3D Spatial Audio, Re-engineered and Optimized Ergonomics, Latest SteamVR Tracking System, Bundle includes controllers and sensors

Only £1,249.99 inc VAT.

ORDER NOW
 
LordFeste said:
How does a starting price of $800 convert in to £800? And what is with HTC price gouging early adopters on this product? Bad move from a company that's trying to survive with a nascent technology that is under serious price pressure from the mass-surveillance company that is Facebook. On the plus side, the lower price for the original Vive welcome.

Does this bundle from OCUK also include the 6 month access of VIVE PORT

"*With limited time offer of 6-month VIVEPORT Subscription."
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The $800 won't include the applicable sales tax for the state they reside in. As it varies state to state they don't quote in the upfront price. Hence VAT being 20% accounts for most of the difference between the exchange rates.

Our VIVE also come with the limited 6 month subscription offer.
 
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NikTheSHNIK said:
The $800 won't include the applicable sales tax for the state they reside in. As it varies state to state they don't quote in the upfront price. Hence VAT being 20% accounts for most of the difference between the exchange rates.
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The £1 to $1 price is inexcusable, and you know it.

..an average 5% US sales tax and 20% VAT does NOT come close to a 40% price differential.
 
Cooper said:
The £1 to $1 price is inexcusable, and you know it.

..an average 5% US sales tax and 20% VAT does NOT come close to a 40% price differential.
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The way I work it out it's closer to a 15% difference than 40%. Forgive me if I'm wrong, I'm not trying to be disingenuous. A lot of people don't realise that american website prices don't include federal and local state taxes.

UK headset £666.66 Ex VAT
US Headset $799.99 Ex VAT (£571.58) (at live rate, the actual rate used will be a few points less)

There is a £95 difference in price ex vat between the two countries. That is 16.6% more at the live rate. Lets say the difference for the sake of argument is 15% (way less than the 40% you say above).

While I don't doubt we are paying more it isn't as much as you think.

Think as well these were probably made in Q3-4 last year and the exchange rate has improved since then by about 10%. Think also shipping to America from China/Taiwan is cheaper than to Europe with many more ships plying the route, no Suez Canal costs and taxes etc.

They will sell many more headsets in the USA than UK, so they don't have to make as much % margin to cover their costs and profit as they do in the UK, to make the same amount of gross profit.

There are also a myriad of other factors that I didn't go into above so I could just get back quickly to the above comment.

Hope this clears things up a bit for you! :)
 
I just don't get this price point irrespective of the USD to GBP conversion.

I got my Vive in the first wave, nearly two years ago. I'm still playing with my Vive almost every day. My son is growing up with VR in his house. The current headset doesn't even include the breakout box, so it's not even possible to use my old and new Vives together (should I buy a VivePro). I can't remember exactly what the price of the pre-order Vive was back in 2016, but I'm pretty sure it was less than this single headset. I'm not against paying money for new tech, but the cost of the vive pro pre-order is just too high. I think it'll be counterproductive to the success of HTC and the Vive in the long run.

I'm sure OCuk will run out of stock, but I know it would've happened a lot faster if the price had reflected the fact that it's an incomplete system.
 
I play VR a hell of a lot i'd say i have put almost 750 hours into VR games alone and i was really hoping that this would be £499 just for the HMD or £599 but £799 no chance i'm buying that. It's not even a massive improvement according to people that have tried both.

£799 just for the HMD is terrible imo. I paid day one £679.99 with three free games and it's still working just fine. I the purchased the Deluxe Audio strap for £99 and it still comes cheaper than just the HMD.

HTC have lost it with the pricing. I'll be hoping Oculus bring something out similar with a lower price point to force HTC to drop it's price. Because £799 just for the headset in insane to me.

Good price on the original HTC Vive now though but the HMD is a joke.
 
What has been upgraded in the bundle compared to the original release?

You are asking for £450 just for the accessories. That makes the gen1 HMD worth £50 in comparison given the current deal.

The prices on this site are getting more and more ridiculous tbh. OCUK gouging on top of HTC gouging is a tough pill to swallow.
 
NikTheSHNIK said:
The way I work it out it's closer to a 15% difference than 40%. Forgive me if I'm wrong, I'm not trying to be disingenuous. A lot of people don't realise that american website prices don't include federal and local state taxes.

UK headset £666.66 Ex VAT
US Headset $799.99 Ex VAT (£571.58) (at live rate, the actual rate used will be a few points less)

There is a £95 difference in price ex vat between the two countries. That is 16.6% more at the live rate. Lets say the difference for the sake of argument is 15% (way less than the 40% you say above).

While I don't doubt we are paying more it isn't as much as you think.

Think as well these were probably made in Q3-4 last year and the exchange rate has improved since then by about 10%. Think also shipping to America from China/Taiwan is cheaper than to Europe with many more ships plying the route, no Suez Canal costs and taxes etc.

They will sell many more headsets in the USA than UK, so they don't have to make as much % margin to cover their costs and profit as they do in the UK, to make the same amount of gross profit.

There are also a myriad of other factors that I didn't go into above so I could just get back quickly to the above comment.

Hope this clears things up a bit for you! :)
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Let's say for the sake of argument that freight cost to US from China is 1000USD cheaper per 40' hi cube than to Europe. I don't deal in cross trade too much but I'm interested to find out. OCUK won't be paying much more than 1000 USD on freight from China to Europe anyway.

The boxes these headsets come in may be quite big but definitely no more than 1 CBM. 1000 USD divided by a very unoptimstic 50 CBM equals 20 USD extra shipping costs per unit.

Haulage in the states is probably more expensive overall due to distances despite the lower fuel costs.

My gut feeling is shipping costs on such high value items plays almost zero part in the prices.

In reality you're looking at more like 1000 units in a container giving goods value at retail of around £1m

Don't really think an extra thousand or so makes a dent.

Happy to be proved wrong though.
 
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D3K said:
What has been upgraded in the bundle compared to the original release?

You are asking for £450 just for the accessories. That makes the gen1 HMD worth £50 in comparison given the current deal.

The prices on this site are getting more and more ridiculous tbh. OCUK gouging on top of HTC gouging is a tough pill to swallow.
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Please explain how OcUK is gouging?
https://www.vive.com/uk/product/vive-pro/

Our price is the same as HTC direct, so what exactly is OcUK gouging on top off?
 
D3K said:
Where are you getting the prices for the accessories from because I do not see a bundle on their site.
Surely there is an actual pack being sold from HTC, or are you totting these up from the individual accessories page?
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HTC have not yet made a bundle of VIVE PRO and accessories who want to be able to experience HTC VIVE PRO out of the box without buying accessories seperately. HTC VIVE PRO is only currently available as a standalone headset so we have made it easier for people to buy everything they need to to get it working out of the box, providing a bundle at a discount.

I didn't make it crystal clear in the listing for the Bundle so thanks for pointing that out and I've amended the description with the below.

The bundle includes:

1 x HTC VIVE PRO HMD - Professional Grade VR Headset
2 x HTC VIVE Controllers
2 x HTC VIVE Base Station Sensors for Room Scale VR
1 x HTC VIVE Mini Displayport to Displayport Cable
1 x HTC VIVE Control Box

Bought separately at RRP this would cost £1307.84. The bundle we offer then gives customers a discount of £57.85 rather than if they were to buy separately.
 
Cooper said:
The 40% i was referring to was the current £1 = $1.40 exchange rate

25% of that can be attributed to VAT & US Sales tax.

The other 15% is accounted for with pure greed.
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When you convert ex VAT (so no tax) GBP price into the USD price there is a 16.5% difference in price though, not 40%. Tax doesn't come into it until after point of sale.

The majority of the 16.5% premium you are paying in the UK will come from further overhead costs (we pay people more in the EU than in US, transport costs to and inside the US are less etc.).

Also my sister lives in Nevada. You should see how much she has to pay for food from the supermarket. So although we have it worse some ways, in others we are better off.
 
NikTheSHNIK said:
When you convert ex VAT (so no tax) GBP price into the USD price there is a 16.5% difference in price though, not 40%. Tax doesn't come into it until after point of sale.

The majority of the 16.5% premium you are paying in the UK will come from further overhead costs (we pay people more in the EU than in US, transport costs to and inside the US are less etc.).

Also my sister lives in Nevada. You should see how much she has to pay for food from the supermarket. So although we have it worse some ways, in others we are better off.
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You can try & justify these prices all you want but it was amazing how quickly the prices went up when the £ fell from $1.40 to $1.20 after you know what.....we have seen absolutely ZERO corresponding price reductions now the £ has recovered to its old level....we are being scammed, end of story.
 
Cooper said:
You can try & justify these prices all you want but it was amazing how quickly the prices went up when the £ fell from $1.40 to $1.20 after you know what.....we have seen absolutely ZERO corresponding price reductions now the £ has recovered to its old level....we are being scammed, end of story.
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I am disappointed you have that perception as I myself went through and changed ALL Corsair peripheral pricing in January, February and lastly 3 weeks ago, downward, due to improvement in the $/£ exchange rate so know it to not be true (and that's just an example of me changing a whole vendors pricing. I do it day to day, week to week on a product to product basis in general).

The price is what the price is, HTC have set the RRP and not Overclockers UK. I told them I thought that it was going to get this reaction and was proven right. However they are the ones who make the product and can sell it for whatever price they like.

People are pre-ordering and we are already nearing the figure which will land with us in our initial allocation. HTC would have been kicking themselves, and their investors kicking off and people losing their jobs if they didn't maximise the value inherent to their product by selling it too cheaply.

If you feel the price is too high then wait until they ramp up production, get more numbers out and then they will drop the price and offer a bundled version.
 
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