"Hundreds" of Met Police armed response officers hand in the weapons after colleague charged with murder - Chris Kaba Shooting aftermath.

An absolutely bizarre attempt at prosecution.


It was quite apparent early on that this case wouldn't lead to a prosecution of a police officer for murder.

This should have been clear when even Kaba's parents announced they were 'stepping back' when shown video footage of the incident which was a clear sign that the Metropolitan Police and even the parents could see there was no case to answer.


But yet the IOPC and CPS decided to run a show trial anyway despite the pretty inevitable result.

I'm not surprised a lot of firearms officers were talking of handing their guns in.
 
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Perhaps we should only hire Black and Asian firearms officers.

Presumably then when the police shoot dead a criminal posing a threat to their lives it won’t be down to “widespread systemic institutional racism” and we won’t run the risk on the uk having its “George Floyd moment” :rolleyes:

We could probably tackle sexism by not hiring any men in the police either. Or at the very least take steps to ensure they aren’t white and male….

Black and Asian people can be racist against their own. Did you not follow the coconut trial?
 
Black and Asian people can be racist against their own. Did you not follow the coconut trial?
i dont think he was serious!. This whole thing is a mess..

Because I DO believe there are some instances of sexism and racism in the police force (i am/ was friends with a few coppers or their families so have some notion of this from the inside).... they are in an increasing minority but they are there.

however by choosing to scapegoat someone who very early on it must have been pretty clear certainly to those who should matter and be impartial that the copper was just doing their job, it completely undermines any legitimacy that some people unfairly treated may have.

I know it is considered racist to suggest this but some people DO play the race card and it was played very heavily in this case...... its been a shambolic disgrace, and whilst i disagree in general with police closing ranks to cover for their own, in this instance if it were me i would have been handing my gun over as well!..

put it this way, had it of been an ethnic minority female officer who shot some white scally Mancunian gang member who was been chased for shooting someone and was in their car trying to ram their way out does anyone think it would have been treated like this?

I dont blame Kaba's family....... they are allowed and expected to be biased, but the rest of them (for letting it go as far as it did + the media and what not) shame on them!.
 
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I saw the video today for the first time.... clear to anyone that the police had to open fire. Or do we expect them to use harsh words now to fend off violent criminals.

He wasnt armed...!! erm he was in control of a lethal device and tried to use it to kill.
 
I can’t believe the judge blocked that. Again, awful behaviour from the top.

During the firearms briefing that officer would have been told of kaba’s identify, capability and intent. This would have involved his previous showing he clearly has the capability. This would have then formed part of that officers threat assessment.

Absolute dog mess from that judge

Loveable rogue he was not it seems.
 
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After I saw the video I couldn't believe it went to trial, and now all the extra information is coming out you can see it would have been easy for the jury. And the friends and families preach on the door of the courts asking for justice. Would love to see them on a chat show where people are asking them about his background and associated criminal activities...
 
I can’t believe the judge blocked that. Again, awful behaviour from the top.

During the firearms briefing that officer would have been told of kaba’s identify, capability and intent. This would have involved his previous showing he clearly has the capability. This would have then formed part of that officers threat assessment.

Absolute dog mess from that judge

Loveable rogue he was not it seems.
It had to be held during the trial for the jury. Judge didn't really have a choice.
 
Is it the IOPC that recommends things for trial?

Have they put out a comment or apology yet?

I’m wondering if they are going down the route of “we wanted a jury to decide to show our transparency and processes, and not. E accused of a cover up”, all at the expense of the poor officer.
 
His history is irrelevant to the case. The case is purely about whether the shooting was justified, as it turns out it looks like the officer was the victim of political pandering by the people at the top.

It's not irrelevant though. Let's say you walk to the shops every day. And every day the same dog tries to bite you. Will you assume that just like yesterday it's gonna try and bite you again today? I would. It's called self preservation.
 
Is it the IOPC that recommends things for trial?

Have they put out a comment or apology yet?

They led with some statement about Chris's family etc..

Perhaps they should have said something about the victim Chris shot in the days before who nearly lost his life, or everyone terrorised in that nightclub. Or indeed the multiple shooting incidents that car was linked to - several in just a few months.
 
It's not irrelevant though. Let's say you walk to the shops every day. And every day the same dog tries to bite you. Will you assume that just like yesterday it's gonna try and bite you again today? I would. It's called self preservation.

Do we know that the officer knew for certain who was driving?

The shot was based on the immediate actions, you can’t shoot someone based on their past behaviours. He was driving his car at officers putting them in danger of being killed, possibly attempting to kill them intentionally, it doesn’t matter the past of the driver in that situation.
 
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