Hungarian Grand Prix 2012, Budapest - Race 11/20

Think he was doing low(er) fuel runs than Maldonado and then the rain came and nobody could improve on the times already set.
 
Mr Men said:
Yeah other teams respecting the rules is a bad thing I suppose, not sure how you can declare cheating as fantastic? if this report is true off course.
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F1 has ALWAYS been about pushing the rules and innovating. If you play safe, you won't win. Simple.

You can either play safe (as I think you would) and lose OR you can push the boundaries of those rules and with a bit of luck, you will have the best car on the grid. The proof: RBR's stellar performance over the last 3-4 years.

Personally. I like to win....though I am very competitive by nature. And my way of thinking is that if you are not ultra competitive, you really shouldnt be working for an F1 team.

Mr Men said:
Ferrari have not really innovated anything this year have they, they said it was innovative for them as it was a break from their normal design ideas, they have nothing on the car that is innovative.
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It is quite possible that they have innovations. But they are all hidden away from the eye. Remember, just because you cannot see the "innovation", it doesn't mean its not there. They did go against the norm with their suspension system, though. Perhaps that is allowing them to make gains in other areas.

PS: with regards to cheating, RBR have NEVER been found to be cheating. I'm not sure where you got this from.
 
sunama said:
PS: with regards to cheating, RBR have NEVER been found to be cheating. I'm not sure where you got this from.
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What I posted adjusting the suspension of the car while in parc ferme conditions would be cheating, you said it was fantastic.

What innovations do you think Ferrari have that nobody can see? Yes the front suspension is not the norm but it's not innovative either. Most thing in F1 have been done before.
 
Didn't see P3 this morning but times below -

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[b]Pos  Driver                Team                  Time              Laps[/b]
 1.  Mark Webber           Red Bull-Renault      1m21.550s           27
 2.  Lewis Hamilton        McLaren-Mercedes      1m21.643   + 0.093  17
 3.  Sebastian Vettel      Red Bull-Renault      1m21.671s  + 0.121  29
 4.  Bruno Senna           Williams-Renault      1m21.876s  + 0.326  22
 5.  Fernando Alonso       Ferrari               1m21.884s  + 0.334  13
 6.  Kimi Raikkonen        Lotus-Renault         1m21.953s  + 0.403  20
 7.  Romain Grosjean       Lotus-Renault         1m22.110s  + 0.560  24
 8.  Felipe Massa          Ferrari               1m22.136s  + 0.586  15
 9.  Paul di Resta         Force India-Mercedes  1m22.191s  + 0.641  20
10.  Jenson Button         McLaren-Mercedes      1m22.233s  + 0.683  24
11.  Pastor Maldonado      Williams-Renault      1m22.381s  + 0.831  21
12.  Kamui Kobayashi       Sauber-Ferrari        1m22.387s  + 0.837  20
13.  Jean-Eric Vergne      Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m22.492s  + 0.942  26
14.  Nico Hulkenberg       Force India-Mercedes  1m22.530s  + 0.980  25
15.  Sergio Perez          Sauber-Ferrari        1m22.597s  + 1.047  23
16.  Daniel Ricciardo      Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m22.716s  + 1.166  24
17.  Michael Schumacher    Mercedes              1m22.868s  + 1.318  30
18.  Nico Rosberg          Mercedes              1m22.931s  + 1.381  30
19.  Heikki Kovalainen     Caterham-Renault      1m24.036s  + 2.486  20
20.  Vitaly Petrov         Caterham-Renault      1m24.547s  + 2.997  18
21.  Charles Pic           Marussia-Cosworth     1m25.224s  + 3.674  22
22.  Timo Glock            Marussia-Cosworth     1m25.497s  + 3.947  21
23.  Pedro de la Rosa      HRT-Cosworth          1m26.785s  + 5.235  20
24.  Narain Karthikeyan    HRT-Cosworth          1m26.898s  + 5.348  26

Qually starts at 1pm like normal.
 
Bruno up there again! Glad to see Webber getting some good results. Ill be happy to see him finish above Vettle this year. Would be nice for him to take the title too, but I can't see it.
 
Well, if Red Bull have a setup that allows them to adjust the suspension settings by hand, then it is clearly illegal.

34.5
If a competitor modifies any part on the car or makes changes to the set‐up of the suspension whilst the car is being held under parc fermé conditions the relevant driver must start the race

In order that the scrutineers may be completely satisfied that no alterations have been made to the suspension systems or aerodynamic configuration of the car (with the exception of the front wing) whilst in post‐qualifying parc fermé, it must be clear from physical inspection that changes cannot be made without the use of tools.
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Pretty clear cut there.
 
Horner with the usual 'teams complain as we are at the front.. dont hear this against Ferrari, Mclaren etc
 
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