Hungarian Grand Prix 2013, Budapest - Race 10/19

Stunning lap by Hamilton - thought Vettel had it easily there. Interesting grid off the line at the front :)
 
Nicely done Hamilton, 3rd pole in a row...now can you please bloody well win a race, no point being on pole if you cant win the race:p.
 
Don't really understand their strategy. Set the car up so it's blisteringly fast in qualifying yet they know it'll eat tyres during the race. Seems a very shortsighted approach to the race or am I missing something?
 
Don't really understand their strategy. Set the car up so it's blisteringly fast in qualifying yet they know it'll eat tyres during the race. Seems a very shortsighted approach to the race or am I missing something?


They set it up for race pace that's why they are all surprised at getting pole.
 
Its worth pointing out that just about every driver who did a proper lap in Q3 was almost bang on half a second quicker than their Q2 lap, except Rosberg who basically did the same. I don't know why people were expecting anything less, its pretty standard, only the 8/10th gap made it look not close because Vettel just went straight out on new tyres.

It was a good lap, but look at him qualify this year, why expect anything less. The truly great drivers hold a half second back, and they bring that power to show in Q3 so absolutely consistently that I have no clue how people don't see this coming every race. Its the same almost every race.
 
Don't really understand their strategy. Set the car up so it's blisteringly fast in qualifying yet they know it'll eat tyres during the race. Seems a very shortsighted approach to the race or am I missing something?

They set it up for race pace that's why they are all surprised at getting pole.

They always set it up for race pace more than qualifying, there is no setup that would be 2 seconds slower in qualifying but insanely better in the race, it would just be slower in the race as well and eat tyres. ITs a fundamental design flaw that it runs the rear tyres too hot, its been that way since the year it became Merc again. They made a mistake and the underlying car just isn't going to ever be great on tyres.

I think in general people are just forgetting how completely uncompetitive that car was last year, of all cars Merc has improved more than any other car by a freaking monumental margin... so expecting them to go from slow and eats tyres to fastest outright pace and fastest race pace in one season is just... unrealistic. Ultimately the improvement in that Merc is unbelievable, they've won two races, got multiple poles, dominate qualifying, have led a significant number of laps in races now. Remember when Hamilton signed and everyone thought it was a joke because that car was so uncompetitive and no one even predicted they could improve half as much as they have.

They've done phenomenal work on the car in the past year.... it was just too far back for that to turn it into the outright best car out there.
 
I think in general people are just forgetting how completely uncompetitive that car was last year, of all cars Merc has improved more than any other car by a freaking monumental margin... so expecting them to go from slow and eats tyres to fastest outright pace and fastest race pace in one season is just... unrealistic. Ultimately the improvement in that Merc is unbelievable, they've won two races, got multiple poles, dominate qualifying, have led a significant number of laps in races now. Remember when Hamilton signed and everyone thought it was a joke because that car was so uncompetitive and no one even predicted they could improve half as much as they have.

They've done phenomenal work on the car in the past year.... it was just too far back for that to turn it into the outright best car out there.
Indeed. I think most on here thought he would just use this season to get to grips with the team and car and thought Merc would go all out on 2014 but their 2013 car has been surprisingly good. Hamilton is still overdue a win with them though.
 
It's about time someone made up a tally of Vettel vs Webber. Kers problems again! For like, the ninety billionth time.
 
Red Bull still seem to be the only team with KERS issues, which is a little worrying come next year when energy recovery will count for 200bhp+.
 
Red Bull still seem to be the only team with KERS issues, which is a little worrying come next year when energy recovery will count for 200bhp+.

Huh? The remaining 160 horsepower will come from the energy recovery system according to Renault http://www.carscoops.com/2013/06/renault-details-2014-f1-16-liter-v6.html

And tomorrow, unlike what another person stated, we will see the slowest pace from the Merc again in a race because they will be scared of eating up their tyres. May well get the radio message from L, I'm not really going bald, H stating I can't go any slower I've just been overtaken by a Williams...
 
Red Bull still seem to be the only team with KERS issues, which is a little worrying come next year when energy recovery will count for 200bhp+.

I've always thought they must be using Webbers Kers/car as a test bed to keep pushing it. If it works and becomes reliable filter it onto Vettels cars. If it fails so what it's webbers car.
 
Critical error in your assumption, test bed for what, it's far to tightly regulated.

It's because newey won't sacrifice aerodynamics for Kers, so it probably gets hotter than ther teams etc. next year he has no choice.
 
so.. how far will merc slip down tomorrow?

i wonder if lotus can get another podium double?
Good to see RG doing a decent quali job

If kimi goes to RBR next year would DR be able to come to lotus? ill be very interested to see who is in the lotus seat if not kimi
 
Lotus called up to stewards office after Grosjean's car failed a floor deflection test. From what I gather its the tea tray portion, for which the tests have been pretty stringent for a while now, so there's no reason to fail it.

Potential disqualification from qualifying for that infringement unless Lotus have a VERY good reason.
 
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