Hungarian Grand Prix 2014, Hungaroring Race - 11/19

Massa really needs to drive with a bit more preservation in mind. Not everything is his fault, but he's definitely contributing hugely. Williams would have a surefire 2nd in constructors if he hadn't binned it from the top positions a handful of times.
 
It's like for him to drive fast he has to drive recklessly!

Says a lot for those drivers who can get the results and the overtakes done, yet keep it calm and collected.
 
Guerrilla said:
It's like for him to drive fast he has to drive recklessly!

Says a lot for those drivers who can get the results and the overtakes done, yet keep it calm and collected.
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Alonso/Vettel/Ricciardo say Hi!

Hamilton is just on his way, he clipped a door on his way in.
 
Skeeter said:
Alonso/Vettel/Ricciardo say Hi!

Hamilton is just on his way, he clipped a door on his way in.
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Hamilton is a strange one, sometimes he seems to drive recklessly and sometimes not, but he is usually always quick... Think it's more to do with where his head is at... There was the season he and Massa couldn't stop bashing into each other after all :p

Hulkenberg is always solid and doesn't seem to get caught up with much, he and Alonso scoring points every race so far... Imagine that consistency if they were team mates! :p Bottas also seems really good this year.
 
Guerrilla said:
Hamilton is a strange one, sometimes he seems to drive recklessly and sometimes not, but he is usually always quick... Think it's more to do with where his head is at... There was the season he and Massa couldn't stop bashing into each other after all :p

Hulkenberg is always solid and doesn't seem to get caught up with much, he and Alonso scoring points every race so far... Imagine that consistency if they were team mates! :p Bottas also seems really good this year.
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Bottas has just has a few good results in a row, so people see him as the next messiah. The Williams is a good car, and Massa's inability to keep it in one piece is inflating Bottas' stature as a driver.
 
MooMoo444 said:
Bottas has just has a few good results in a row, so people see him as the next messiah. The Williams is a good car, and Massa's inability to keep it in one piece is inflating Bottas' stature as a driver.
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That's why I felt the need to add 'this year' :p

I think people get excited because the thought of another 'top driver' is exciting but only time will tell :)
 
Well at least Bottas has shown that when he does have a good car, he turns it into a good result, rather than a pile of broken carbon fibre and a bucket of excuses.
 
Talking to a Williams employee a few weeks back he was certain Bottas will be a future champion. Which prompted me to ask when is he leaving :p he's a robot in the car in comparison to Massa.
 
I'm not entirely convinced by Bottas yet. He and Massa were trading blows earlier in the season but he seems to be eking out ahead of Massa now. In one sense, it means he can raise his game, which bodes well if he goes up against a stronger teammate, but in another sense it means he has been leaving a bit on the track, something an Alonso (even in that Minardi!) or young Hamilton never did.

Perhaps for a relative new-comer the former approach is the better one, but I still can't see him mixing it with the elite. Given a car advantage I could see him getting one - think Button, (almost) Massa, (almost) Irvine and Frentzen in 99 or Rosberg in 82, but with an Alonso, Hamilton or even Vettel (despite his season) alongside him, I really couldn't see him coming out on top. He's very good though, and still improving. He's 24 though, so not a super-young up-and-comer anymore.
 
RG and Bottas are ones to watch if they get lucky with car choices.

Hamilton lucky..
Alonso unlucky

Not just luck of course. But make wrong choices and you had it
 
MooMoo444 said:
Massa really needs to drive with a bit more preservation in mind. Not everything is his fault, but he's definitely contributing hugely. Williams would have a surefire 2nd in constructors if he hadn't binned it from the top positions a handful of times.
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Lay off - it's not easy for Rob Smedley to remote control Felipe from the pits, you know. ;)
 
1. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m25.814s 27
2. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m25.997s +0.183s 31
3. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1m26.421s +0.607s 29
4. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m26.872s +1.058s 23
5. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m27.220s +1.406s 28
6. Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes 1m27.357s +1.543s 28
7. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Renault 1m27.683s +1.869s 30
8. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull-Renault 1m27.782s +1.968s 16
9. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m27.804s +1.990s 27
10. Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1m27.960s +2.146s 24
11. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1m27.967s +2.153s 25
12. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1m28.101s +2.287s 28
13. Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso-Renault 1m28.208s +2.394s 32
14. Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault 1m28.266s +2.452s 28
15. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1m28.330s +2.516s 21
16. Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes 1m28.376s +2.562s 24
17. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m28.593s +2.779s 24
18. Adrian Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 1m29.025s +3.211s 23
19. Kamui Kobayashi Caterham-Renault 1m30.363s +4.549s 30
20. Marcus Ericsson Caterham-Renault 1m30.892s +5.078s 24
21. Max Chilton Marussia-Ferrari 1m31.004s +5.190s 5
22. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Ferrari 1m31.248s +5.434s 20

How the hell did Kimi and Alonso keep that dog of a car on the track I will never know. But well done to them
 
Does anyone else think Mercedes are mixing the FlowVis a bit thick? It doesn't appear to actually be 'flowing' anywhere?
 
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