Hygiene

vonhelmet said:
Your hands are covered in bacteria, yes, but maybe you don't want them covered in the bacteria that eat wee.
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if they dont make me ill, and don't smell they are welcome to my wee....

so wee on hands would change the bacteria population, or at least cause growth of a different population that was not already there?
 
vonhelmet said:
Your hands are covered in bacteria, yes, but maybe you don't want them covered in the bacteria that eat wee.
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As said wee is sterile and does not cause any issues at all, unless you have problems downstairs, in which case it's not sterile.

People are far far to clean, I think that goes for nearly all of us. As for some people, they are stupidly to clean. we don;t need stuff that kills 99.9% of bacteria, it's only going to cause faster mutations and other problems.

The body is amazing and needs to be allowed to do it's job. FFS we used to live in caves with no sink, gut animals and wade through mud. h.
 
Angilion said:
Life expectancy. People die from diseases and infections a lot less often than they did in the past. How much of that is due to better living conditions (including far better hygeine) and how much is due to advances in medicine? Who knows?
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But that's also antibiotics for cuts and injuries.
If people died from common bacteria they wouldn't of made it to 40. They also didn't have things like toilets and stuff, so our environment is way cleaner than there's anyway, without doing anything.

vonhelmet said:
Yes, wee is sterile, but the bacteria that break it down are, by definition, not.
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But they are not harmful, they break your sweat down every day.

You can use wee as a sterile liquid to clean cuts in emergencies and even drink it.
 
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AcidHell2 said:
But they are not harmful, they break your sweat down every day.
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Fair enough, if it's all just perfectly normal bacteria then I see your point. However, as I said above, I don't know specifically which bacteria like wee, so I couldn't say for sure that there wasn't anything nasty that does.
 
AcidHell2 said:
As said wee is sterile and does not cause any issues at all, unless you have problems downstairs, in which case it's not sterile.

People are far far to clean, I think that goes for nearly all of us. As for some people, they are stupidly to clean. we don;t need stuff that kills 99.9% of bacteria, it's only going to cause faster mutations and other problems.

The body is amazing and needs to be allowed to do it's job. FFS we used to live in caves with no sink, gut animals and wade through mud. h.
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Oh I agree totally - I'm one that believes in the 3s rule - i.e. I'll pick up food from the floor and eat it :o I also believe that people are over sanitised - however, hygiene is also done not only for cleanliness, but out of respect and environment of other people around you. I don't particularly want to touch other people's germs, spit, or urine. It's gross. Admittedly we all undoubtedly do so more than we realise.

It's just about having a little bit of respect for others around you too. If you smell and have bad BO, or don't wash regularly or don't wear clean clothes etc... it's not really pleasant for other people around and not only embarassing to yourself but to others too (IMO).

Though I concur that excessive hand gelling is also equally pointless. It's gettin the balance between being gross and being sensible that a lot of people are disproportionate about.
 
Freefaller said:
It's just about having a little bit of respect for others around you too. .
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Agree with that as well.
Was just pointing out that stuff that we find disgusting isn't going to harm us. doesn't mean we should do stuff though.

Freefaller said:
Admittedly we all undoubtedly do so more than we realise.
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Just look how easily stuff spreads.
 
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I think it is sensible to wash hand before eating and after using the toilet... Net necessarily because the act of going to the toilet contaminates your hands (although it may well do), more because it provides a reasonable amount of intervals during the day to clean your hands and therfore reduce the chance of getting a cold or other virus. Our hands do come in to contact with lots of surfaces which have the potential to transmit infection so it is sensible to be ever so slightly pro-active in trying to reduce the risk of catching something.
 
I often reflect on how easy it would be to become victim to OCD. As a case in point - I was at the doctor's surgery earlier and a young man came in. He was sniffing constantly (a noise that I absolutely detest) and then sneezed into his gloved hand. Immediately afterwards he used that same hand to push himself up on the arm of the chair he was sitting in. A little later, he sneezed again into the other gloved hand and absentmindedly wiped that hand down his jeans.

Not only did I consider who would be along next to pick up his germs that he'd just shared very thoughtfully with everyone who is likely to use that chair in the coming hours but I also wondered why people sit sniffing like that? What is so hard about using a tissue??

If you think too much about the kind of things people do that are similar to this everyday, you'd never leave the house!
 
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