If someone with dirty hands happen to shake my hands then I have to clean them before I do anything else.
If ANYONE shakes my hand, I have the overwhelming urge to wash it.
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If ANYONE shakes my hand, I have the overwhelming urge to wash it.
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I meant they're the only problem unless you have a compromised immune system (in which case much more care needs to be taken in general) - the recommendation was aimed at everyone who doesn't like catching colds. Just read it back and saying 'in this case' did make it look I meant 'if you have such a condition' not 'if you're around someone with a cold' though!
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You have a toilet for that, thats why. I'm assuming you have one?
I would hate to think someone in my house was doing that and i can't imagine that you would go to the effort of getting the bleach out each time you do your business in the shower as it would take time and you would just use the toilet. If its only you using the shower then thats up to you but i know i wouldnt like to get into the shower the next day knowing that there might be **** splattered over the walls of the shower its just unhygienic imo
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It's my shower and I aim down the plug hole, sometimes over my feet if they're cold.
Just for the record, I wouldn't curl one out in the shower.
So it's not much of a problem.
Used to be a daily thing when I was a Project Manager.
I'm not joking when I say my brother shared a room with someone like that at uni. He called Lynx "a shower in a can". He used to jerk off under the covers. He once threw up down the back of the radiator and refused to do anything to clean it up because "We're students! This is what we do!"
Mercifully, he lasted less than a term.
I personally think hygiene is taken a little bit to far, mostly due to advertising and scare mongering by the media!
It was a point of great conflict between classmates during my degree (finished a BSc in applied microbiology last year and now work at a sewage treatment plant). The human immune system is quite an impressive system and simply doesn't need (certainly doesn't benefit from) all the protection the media seems to claim it needs!
1. Washing your hands after going to the toilet... after a number 2 this is absolutely necessary... but after a pee? I'd put a lot of money on my pee being cleaner than my hands! As has been said several times here urine is sterile and actually slightly antibacterial (high ammonia levels don't make ideal growing conditions for a lot of micro-organisms, infact quite a few soaps are ammonia based).
2. Alcohol based hand washes.... these things annoy me... there's simply no need! Even in hospitals (did you know C.diff will quite happily grow on alcohol?) all these do is wipe out the harmless natural flora of your skin (which incidentally helps protect you from pathogenic species by competitive inhibition) thus leaving space for C. diff and other alcohol tolerant pathogens. If you must wash your hands a lot just use soap... kills bloody well everything.
3. Overprotective parents... this has been mentioned a few times in this thread, children need exposure to bacteria, lack of exposure in childhood means increase in illness as an adult. Add to this that by weight we're more micro organism than we are human and all the attempts to protect children from bacteria are utterly pointless.
4. Antibacterial products... my workplace has recently implemented anti-bacterial pens (this is to say plastic moulded pens with antibacterial in the grip to (try) and keep them sterile), what the hell is the point in this? Anyone know because I have no idea.... the 'brief' claims that when the tanker drivers loss them in the cabin of the tanker they’ll stay clean… fair enough most tanker cabins are filthy! But the pen being sterile simply doesn’t help! The driver will be touching the original source of the bacteria without the pen acting as a vector.
All most of these things do is expose bacteria (and fungus and viruses) to constant levels of various anti-bacterial’s for no good reason…. What is the outcome? Evolution of tolerant strains that are more difficult to kill, decrease in protection offered by harmless natural flora and weakened/un-prepared immune systems in younger people, it could almost be said our obsessions with hygiene is hurting us more than it’s helping, or that’s certainly what I say!
Anyway rant over…. Hope I didn’t go to off topic in there!
When it comes ot general hygiene (showering etc) then atleast once every 2 days (or immediatly after heavy exercise and such) is a must, not because of infection but out of consideration for your fellow human beings... nobody wants to be stuck in a lecture for 3 hours next to someone who smells like they haven't taken a bath in the last 6 months....
It was a point of great conflict between classmates during my degree (finished a BSc in applied microbiology last year and now work at a sewage treatment plant). The human immune system is quite an impressive system and simply doesn't need (certainly doesn't benefit from) all the protection the media seems to claim it needs!
1. Washing your hands after going to the toilet... after a number 2 this is absolutely necessary... but after a pee? I'd put a lot of money on my pee being cleaner than my hands! As has been said several times here urine is sterile and actually slightly antibacterial (high ammonia levels don't make ideal growing conditions for a lot of micro-organisms, infact quite a few soaps are ammonia based).
2. Alcohol based hand washes.... these things annoy me... there's simply no need! Even in hospitals (did you know C.diff will quite happily grow on alcohol?) all these do is wipe out the harmless natural flora of your skin (which incidentally helps protect you from pathogenic species by competitive inhibition) thus leaving space for C. diff and other alcohol tolerant pathogens. If you must wash your hands a lot just use soap... kills bloody well everything.
3. Overprotective parents... this has been mentioned a few times in this thread, children need exposure to bacteria, lack of exposure in childhood means increase in illness as an adult. Add to this that by weight we're more micro organism than we are human and all the attempts to protect children from bacteria are utterly pointless.
4. Antibacterial products... my workplace has recently implemented anti-bacterial pens (this is to say plastic moulded pens with antibacterial in the grip to (try) and keep them sterile), what the hell is the point in this? Anyone know because I have no idea.... the 'brief' claims that when the tanker drivers loss them in the cabin of the tanker they’ll stay clean… fair enough most tanker cabins are filthy! But the pen being sterile simply doesn’t help! The driver will be touching the original source of the bacteria without the pen acting as a vector.
All most of these things do is expose bacteria (and fungus and viruses) to constant levels of various anti-bacterial’s for no good reason…. What is the outcome? Evolution of tolerant strains that are more difficult to kill, decrease in protection offered by harmless natural flora and weakened/un-prepared immune systems in younger people, it could almost be said our obsessions with hygiene is hurting us more than it’s helping, or that’s certainly what I say!
Anyway rant over…. Hope I didn’t go to off topic in there!
When it comes ot general hygiene (showering etc) then atleast once every 2 days (or immediatly after heavy exercise and such) is a must, not because of infection but out of consideration for your fellow human beings... nobody wants to be stuck in a lecture for 3 hours next to someone who smells like they haven't taken a bath in the last 6 months....
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Presumably that doesn't apply to public toilets though. Since you'll be touching other things, like the door handle or w/e.
This is a good point, always wash your hands after using a public toilet, you may wash yours after a number 2, other people aren't so considerate.
In which case you pick it back up off the door when you leave.....
It's more about touching the sweaty confines of my crotch
Niiiice
. I donno i make a largley sensible post (i think) with a few different points and everyone just focuses on the toilet humour....... I think i'm gonna like it in GD.Niiiice
You’ll soon pick up our toilet habits.
