Hyperthreading vs Non Hyperthreading in games

Woodsta888 · 12 Nov 2019 at 12:43

~>Dg<~ said:
people with slower chips always pick the one game that is close. the truth is the intel 9700k is far better in games across the board. £40 less over 3-5 years. why would you have a slower pc over 3-5 years for £40. any one answer that with logic i will conceed. you cant. its pointless. we all know if honest the 9700k is the best gaming cpu . if people honestly think anything amd is better. leave me out of it. as you are dilisuional.

I think calling people delusional and saying AMD is not even close is.....delusional.

Let me guess, you have a 9700k. Better at what 1080p with a 2080ti. Any other resolution with lower gfx cards then there is next to no difference.

You starting to sound like 4k8k...and that's saying something!

Deleted User 456458 · 12 Nov 2019 at 12:43

If high end sim racing in VR is your goal, it's intel/nvidia all the way.

Unfortunately this thread will now be made useless with people who do neither.

If I was in Joe's position, I'd ask to see a poster's sim rig first before taking their feedback into account. This is a very niche use case where aggregate benchmarks and synthetics don't apply.

~>Dg<~ · 12 Nov 2019 at 12:57

Woodsta888 said:
I think calling people delusional and saying AMD is not even close is.....delusional.

Let me guess, you have a 9700k. Better at what 1080p with a 2080ti. Any other resolution with lower gfx cards then there is next to no difference.

You starting to sound like 4k8k...and that's saying something!

no i dont have a 9700k but why would you buy a cpu for £40 less but slower for a system you going to keepfor 3-5 years ? makes no sense.

Woodsta888 · 12 Nov 2019 at 13:03

~>Dg<~ said:
no i dont have a 9700k but why would you buy a cpu for £40 less but slower for a system you going to keepfor 3-5 years ? makes no sense.

How much slower? Do you get £40 worth of extra performance @ 1440p? Get the stats out

Orange Nexus · 12 Nov 2019 at 13:22

How much does it cost to setup one of these? It looks expensive. Apart from the PC

https://youtu.be/mc1IqgUYEQk

Woodsta888 · 12 Nov 2019 at 13:42

Orange Nexus said:
How much does it cost to setup one of these? It looks expensive. Apart from the PC

https://youtu.be/mc1IqgUYEQk

People spend 1,000's

JUst one manufacturer, decent steering wheel, pedals and shifter £1500, Cockpit base £1,000. Moving like that one in the vid...lots more. VR headset £700, Seat? plus the PC like you say.

People have and are progressing from the sim direct to professional racing in real cars. So the simulation is dang good.

You must have a credit card lying around with some space on it...get spendin'!

~>Dg<~ · 12 Nov 2019 at 14:35

yeah dont take long to spend money on sim gear i had a £5000 set up and that wasnt nothing to what you could get. if you buy top end you could spend upto 30-50k. depends like anything how far you want to pursue it.

Chrisc · 12 Nov 2019 at 14:45

~>Dg<~ said:
yeah dont take long to spend money on sim gear i had a £5000 set up and that wasnt nothing to what you could get. if you buy top end you could spend upto 30-50k. depends like anything how far you want to pursue it.

Was it worth the 5k?

personally for that, id rather buy an old 330i weld the diff and do some drifting at santa pod, which i guess in the long run would be more expensive but you get what im getting at. .

Edit:- the only reason i ask is that im after a Logitec G29 wheel this christmas for some VR racing. . i honestly didnt realise people took it so seriously.

humbug · 12 Nov 2019 at 14:58

~>Dg<~ said:
no i dont have a 9700k but why would you buy a cpu for £40 less but slower for a system you going to keepfor 3-5 years ? makes no sense.

If its a keeper for 3 to 5 years i would get the £290 8 core 16 thread 3700X over the £330 8 core 8 thread 9700K.

Woodsta888 · 12 Nov 2019 at 15:00

Chrisc said:
Was it worth the 5k?

personally for that, id rather buy an old 330i weld the diff and do some drifting at santa pod, which i guess in the long run would be more expensive but you get what im getting at. .

Edit:- the only reason i ask is that im after a Logitec G29 wheel this christmas for some VR racing. . i honestly didnt realise people took it so seriously.

Last off topic - https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/ here is the GT Academy and I'm sure at this Le Mans for the past couple of years some teams have used proven Sim racers.

Chrisc · 12 Nov 2019 at 15:19

Woodsta888 said:
Last off topic - https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/ here is the GT Academy and I'm sure at this Le Mans for the past couple of years some teams have used proven Sim racers.

Jesus thats impressive.

Orange Nexus · 12 Nov 2019 at 15:37

Woodsta888 said:
People spend 1,000's

JUst one manufacturer, decent steering wheel, pedals and shifter £1500, Cockpit base £1,000. Moving like that one in the vid...lots more. VR headset £700, Seat? plus the PC like you say.

People have and are progressing from the sim direct to professional racing in real cars. So the simulation is dang good.

You must have a credit card lying around with some space on it...get spendin'!

I was thinking the Log G29 is enuf. Might as well hit the real tracks. Kart racing or something.

The guy in the vid was using something like this . . .

https://www.prosimu.com

~>Dg<~ · 12 Nov 2019 at 15:46

Chrisc said:
Was it worth the 5k?

personally for that, id rather buy an old 330i weld the diff and do some drifting at santa pod, which i guess in the long run would be more expensive but you get what im getting at. .

Edit:- the only reason i ask is that im after a Logitec G29 wheel this christmas for some VR racing. . i honestly didnt realise people took it so seriously.

its not worth it. you pay for realism thats it. you wont get any better or faster with more expensive gear. a logitech g29 is the perfect wheel for the money and having fun. i smash world records all the time on mine.

i was sponsered by fanatec otherwise i wouldnt pay that much for no sim gear. its just not worth it. especially if its to get faster. for realism yeah you will shake more

also soon with the sales on the logitech g29 will probably go as low as £120. anything under £150 is a bargin.

Chrisc · 12 Nov 2019 at 16:38

~>Dg<~ said:
its not worth it. you pay for realism thats it. you wont get any better or faster with more expensive gear. a logitech g29 is the perfect wheel for the money and having fun. i smash world records all the time on mine.

i was sponsered by fanatec otherwise i wouldnt pay that much for no sim gear. its just not worth it. especially if its to get faster. for realism yeah you will shake more

also soon with the sales on the logitech g29 will probably go as low as £120. anything under £150 is a bargin.

Cheers, thats what i am holding out for, they're currently £200 but i do remember them being sub £150 last christmas.

I have Assetto corsa and project cars ready for the wheel. What games were you playing?

tombomb · 12 Nov 2019 at 16:43

i use a t500rs and looking at upgrading to a fanatec v2.5 base. If you are planning on taking it semi seriously. Skip the g29 and get the fanatec or you will end up buying a new wheel again in a years time. just my 2 cents

~>Dg<~ · 12 Nov 2019 at 17:35

Chrisc said:
Cheers, thats what i am holding out for, they're currently £200 but i do remember them being sub £150 last christmas.

I have Assetto corsa and project cars ready for the wheel. What games were you playing?

they go to about £120,generally its this kinda time of the year to feb. so start looking for the price drops soon. i mainly play dirt rally games. i helped with the handling for dirt rally 2 and my name is in the game credits.

assetto corsa original is really good. competionzione not really.

joedeath332 · 12 Nov 2019 at 17:43

Robert896r1 said:
I'd get this board as it's a rockstar for RAM OC and the VRM's are fine for a 9700k https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-Z390I-GAMING-EDGE-AC It's 2 DIMM but 16gb is more then enough.

That's a b die kit so it'll have good tuning headroom.

Here's a RAM tuning guide that's pretty much perfect:
https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/master/DDR4 OC Guide.md

Board looks good , i see it has 2 x full speed M2 sockets , maybe i would like some more usb slots on the rear.
When you say the VRM's are fine for 9700k , are they ok for clocking to 5ghz ( providing ram and cpu are up to the job )

joedeath332 · 12 Nov 2019 at 17:45

kevman said:
As a flight sim and race sim enthusiast I think that intel are still the best option for this genre as all the games prefer single thread performance. All other game types I would go amd now

Thanks , about 80% of my pc time is spent playing sims,

Deleted User 456458 · 12 Nov 2019 at 17:47

joedeath332 said:
Board looks good , i see it has 2 x full speed M2 sockets , maybe i would like some more usb slots on the rear.
When you say the VRM's are fine for 9700k , are they ok for clocking to 5ghz ( providing ram and cpu are up to the job )

Yeah no problem on getting a 9700k to
5GH+

What’s your budget?

The Aorus master from gigabyte has a lot of USB ports without many incompatibility issues. However you’d want 4 slots filled for ram over clocking past 3600mhz

joedeath332 · 12 Nov 2019 at 17:47

Thanks everyone else for their feedback ,