I hate my housemate

merlin · 15 Jan 2006 at 18:41

Jonnycoupe said:
What RWD transmission? Theres no rear diff.

Its Mid engine, its exactly the same layout as the CTR in terms of gearbox and driveshafts!

lol, i forgot the engine was in the back!

Doh.

merlin · 15 Jan 2006 at 18:45

The_Dark_Side said:
forgive me if my memory is acting up but didn't you recently say that even that figure of 218 BHP @ flywheel was produced running Jap fuel?
i'm sure i remember reading a post from you that said 210BHP on Optimax was more realistic for a UK car.

No, they make anything from 214 to 217 on Optimax over here, someone else thought they would only make 210 on Optimax but all the JDM EP3's and DC5's are making good power over here on 98 ron.

Really the (JDM) engine is 220ps (on 100ron), but most people quote that as bhp, which is wrong, in bhp it's 218.xx bhp.

Del Lardo · 15 Jan 2006 at 19:07

Luke15 said:
Why blow up the engine when the engine can be sold?

I'll quote myself as I can't be bothered to type it all out again

Del Lardo said:
Engine had done 41k but he could never justify getting a conversion whilst his K was working so decided to blow it up. At ~4% £13000 return £520 in interest over a year which is how long he's been thinking about getting it done and how much he would have probably got for the engine.

Del Lardo said:
In the mean time AA Parts and Labour warantee is going to be used to fix the HGF for £50

L0rdMike · 15 Jan 2006 at 19:10

If he wanted to kill the engine why not just take the oil out.

geiger · 15 Jan 2006 at 19:19

I think that might be detectable, oil starvation whereas the gasket going is common and unavoidable according to some. Letting all the oil out is insurance fraud, technically he didnt do anything wrong with bad cold starts or its harder to tell anyway

The Running Man · 15 Jan 2006 at 19:50

hm ins fraud isnt good?

The_Dark_Side · 15 Jan 2006 at 20:10

geiger said:
Letting all the oil out is insurance fraud, technically he didnt do anything wrong with bad cold starts or its harder to tell anyway

surely intentionally damaging your own property is exactly the same thing?

geiger · 15 Jan 2006 at 20:15

No I dont think so or half the people who crashed on comp insurance through their own fault would be guilty of the same but driving it into a lamp post on purpose would be what I would equate letting the oil out with, clearly wrong

The_Dark_Side · 15 Jan 2006 at 20:18

geiger said:
No I dont think so or half the people who crashed on comp insurance through their own fault would be guilty of the same but driving it into a lamp post on purpose would be what I would equate letting the oil out with, clearly wrong

not really because they wouldn't have tried to crash their car on purpose.
the guy we're talking about was intentionally trying to blow his engine..that's a different point altogether.

geiger · 15 Jan 2006 at 20:33

People drive intentionally badly and then claim it was an accident all the time so no worse imo

The_Dark_Side · 15 Jan 2006 at 20:37

geiger said:
People drive intentionally badly and then claim it was an accident all the time so no worse imo

but it's almost unheard of to hear of a driver intentionally smashing his/her car up just so they have an excuse to buy another.
draining the oil from the sump or thrashing it from cold and killing it everywhere will have a similar end result ie dead engine.
a bit like arguiing that stabbing someone to death is more or less serious than shooting them...the end result is the same,death,the intention was the same,murder...all you're quibbling about is the method of choice.

the only difference is draining the oil would've been quicker.

The Running Man · 15 Jan 2006 at 20:43

but does it make it RIGHT?

The_Dark_Side · 15 Jan 2006 at 20:59

Nickg said:
but does it make it RIGHT?

IMHO it makes the guy sound like a tool.

TripleT · 15 Jan 2006 at 21:03

Does it matter? I don't think that it was the MAIN point of the thread really...

Anyway, sounds sweet :cool:

Expensive, but if it's what he wants who are we to argue

Vertigo · 15 Jan 2006 at 21:13

The_Dark_Side said:
IMHO it makes the guy sound like a tool.

Tend to agree. It doesn't make any difference to me personally as I don't pay for insurance but those here who do might want to consider that fraudsters like this are contributing to their ever rising premiums.

Del Lardo · 15 Jan 2006 at 21:31

The_Dark_Side said:
IMHO it makes the guy sound like a tool.

You are of course entitled to your opinion but in this case you couldn't be more wrong.

I've got no idea why people are so focused on the fact that he blew he K series engine but he did. Stop trying to find logic where you will never find it. Like spending £13 000 on an engine conversion on a car worth £11 000 there is little logic behind intentionally blowing up an engine but he did. If it helps think of it as an experiment. My friend no longer wanted the engine and didn't need the £500 he'd get for it if he sold it so he decided to donate it to science. The Elise is somewhat renound for HGF so he decided that his experiment would be to see how long it would last being driven hard from cold.

As for this whole fraud thing.... wtf? The AA only specify that you have to have your car serviced as the correct intervals and this car has been (to the highest standard). They make no mention of driving the car hard from cold.

Simon · 16 Jan 2006 at 08:52

The engines going to be fixed for free (well bar a £50 excess) So what was the point really as he is now in the same situation but with argueably a better engine than before it 'blew up'.

The_Dark_Side · 16 Jan 2006 at 17:50

Simon said:
The engines going to be fixed for free (well bar a £50 excess) So what was the point really as he is now in the same situation but with argueably a better engine than before it 'blew up'.

exactly,if the guy wanted rid of his engine so badly why didn't he offer it for free to someone in the owners club?

to actually say out loud that they had to break something before replacing it is the sort of comment i'd expect from someone that gets lollipops and crayons for xmas.
"i don't want it so i'm going to break it" belongs in the playground,not with the grown-ups.

Del Lardo · 16 Jan 2006 at 18:06

Simon said:
The engines going to be fixed for free (well bar a £50 excess) So what was the point really as he is now in the same situation but with argueably a better engine than before it 'blew up'.

He wasn't expecting a 4 month waiting list.

The_Dark_Side said:
to actually say out loud that they had to break something before replacing it is the sort of comment i'd expect from someone that gets lollipops and crayons for xmas.

I did actually buy him a colouring book and crayons for Christmas last year

I'm really not sure why you guys are so on his back about this. He blew up an engine and is now getting it fixed as there is a 4 month waiting list for the conversion he wants. In the grand scheme of things it really is a very trivial thing to get wound up about.

Simon · 16 Jan 2006 at 18:09

Del Lardo said:
In the grand scheme of things it really is a very trivial thing to get wound up about.

I don't think anyone is getting wound up, just rather confused.