I just can't be bothered anymore tbh

To put it simply, could you do a better job?

Refereeing is a ridiculously difficult job already without people diving, moaning, feining injuries and swearing off. This is why I hate the vast majority of football fans and in particular those who just moan about referees. Players make mistakes, managers make mistakes and, here's the kicker, referees make mistakes too. Get over it.
 
here's the kicker, referees make mistakes too. Get over it.


Here's another kicker, it could easily be improved.

That is the whole point, they are basically saying "here ref, you have a game going at a really fast pace with lots going on, you now get to see an incident once and you have little time to make a big decision that will affect the outcome(of at least the game maybe more)"
"oh and it doesn't matter if you get it wrong either, because nobody is allowed to complain and if they do you can give them a yellow card and we will sort our any managers that say anything"
 
I hate this 'ref ruined the game' line. It's bull. The refs are just there to enforce the rules, not make sure the game is 'fair' or 'good' they're there to enforce the rules of the game.

Players stop doing stupid things and breaking the rules. The ref stop 'ruining games'
 
I hate this 'ref ruined the game' line. It's bull. The refs are just there to enforce the rules, not make sure the game is 'fair' or 'good' they're there to enforce the rules of the game.

Players stop doing stupid things and breaking the rules. The ref stop 'ruining games'

If a referee disallows a perfectly good goal for no reason, he has ruined it, don't you agree? The whole point of football is to score more goals than the other team!
 
No, he's not. He won't just rule out a goal for no reason. If he spots a foul, and disallowed a goal (happened at Wednesday a couple of games back) you just get on with it.

I think it's a bit of an opt out to blame a referee. The players that miss the sitters or make the stupid tackles are the ones who should be blamed.
 
People occasionally get things wrong or make a mistake.

You going to stop watching football because a player misses an open goal that could have won you a game, that in turn could have won you a cup?

**** reason to stop watching football.
 
You going to stop watching football because a player misses an open goal that could have won you a game, that in turn could have won you a cup?

:confused:
That is completely different, and you know it;)....that is football!

Referees making mistakes that could easily be avoided with a simple replay is not 'part of the game'. Steps should be taken to remedy it don't you think?


Also, clearly I am not going to stop watching football, That was just a rant!!:p
 
Video replays aren't the answer. I certainly am 100% against it.

It's not completely different. Players make mistakes, JJ missed an open goal today against West Ham, it was literally more difficult to miss then score. Referee gave them a penalty that I didn't think was a penalty. Everyone makes mistakes.
 
I think the root of the problem lies in the organizations, it is like they WANT the game to be corrupt and unfair, if a team scored 5 perfectly good goals in a game, a ref could simply disallow them all giving a reason such as "i saw a push" or whatever, ok he might be disciplined in some way, but the game would not be replayed.

So what's the alternative - somebody has to be in charge to award fouls otherwise there really would be pushes before every goal!

I hate the way that players get cautioned for swearing etc or complaining to the ref, you might not agree, but I think that they have every right to complain so long as referees are not getting decisions right

Why should referees have to put up with being sworn at in front of millions of spectators, what sort of message does that send out.... if you don't like a decision just tell the fat **** to **** off, bully the officials until they agree with you because they aren't allowed to book you for it? Ultimately the ref will think he got every decision right (at the time) so in his mind any complaint is unjustified, it's not like he's gonna stand there and think "well, I just gave a handball against Rooney and now he's called me a ****er, but it wasn't actually a handball lol, so I won't book him for dissent haha!". Players these days appeal for everything, penalties, corners, freekicks, throwins, offsides, cards for opposing players - sometimes the players are in the wrong too, not just the ref.
 
So what's the alternative - somebody has to be in charge to award fouls otherwise there really would be pushes before every goal!

If a ref isn't sure, allow him to ask someone who has access to a replay. It really wouldn't take long, it isn't as if it happens dozens of times a game

Why should referees have to put up with being sworn at in front of millions of spectators, what sort of message does that send out.... if you don't like a decision just tell the fat **** to **** off, bully the officials until they agree with you because they aren't allowed to book you for it? Ultimately the ref will think he got every decision right (at the time) so in his mind any complaint is unjustified, it's not like he's gonna stand there and think "well, I just gave a handball against Rooney and now he's called me a ****er, but it wasn't actually a handball lol, so I won't book him for dissent haha!". Players these days appeal for everything, penalties, corners, freekicks, throwins, offsides, cards for opposing players - sometimes the players are in the wrong too, not just the ref.
I got a yellow card sometime last year I think, can't remember tbh, for saying ffs after a ref gave a foul against me! (obviously i didn't abbreviate it). That is just ridiculous imo.

I think they should probably punish players for abusing the ref, i am not saying that is acceptable, but a retrospective punishment after the game imo, not something that has the potential to unbalance the game. It is incredibly frustrating to have bad decisions go against you.
 
As I've said in another thread, it's like some refs get some sort of orgasm when giving out cards.

It's not their fault, they're enforcing the rules of the game to the best of their ability and interpretation.

Blame players for making silly, pointless and dangerous 'tackles'.
 
What most people for some reason either don't understand or choose to ignore is that according to the rules of the game right now a two footed tackle where both feet are off the floor = straight red, regardless of whether or not the ball is won.
 
What most people for some reason either don't understand or choose to ignore is that according to the rules of the game right now a two footed tackle where both feet are off the floor = straight red, regardless of whether or not the ball is won.

Just ignore the macho men, they don't know how silly they look. I particularly like the ones who say that you soon won't be allowed to slide tackle and it's a girl's game. They're the biggest men of all
 
Also, I hate the way that players get cautioned for swearing etc or complaining to the ref, you might not agree, but I think that they have every right to complain so long as referees are not getting decisions right, it is like the people who make the rules do not realize how important the games are. I have had referees caution me for a good tackle or if there is no contact before, had goals disallowed and it is incredibly frustrating!


The thing that really annoys me is the regulations which have nothing to do with football, the ref is supposed to ensure the game runs smoothly etc, it is not about him! yellow cards for complaining to the ref, showing dissent, throwing the ball away(can't they find another one:confused:?), taking your shirt off, IT IS NOTHING TO DO WITH FOOTBALL!!



So I am going to stop watching football for a while, I would obviously like some form of video assistance for referees during a game, but that is far too sensible of course. Until that happens, it just isn't football anymore:(

Are you serious?

Its nothing to do with football? When millions of people watch matches and see that behaviour going on and think its acceptable? These people are "role models" I use the term loosely.

I want to see more yellows for swearing at the ref/throwing the ball away. they are adults. They should be able to conduct themselves properly, and quite frankly there is a massive massive lack of respect for other players and the refs in general.

But who would want to be a ref now days? it is a hiding to nothing, for 90 minutes you have a great game, send a player of in the 85 minute that tv replays later show wasnt a red and all that gets talked about is how they messed up. All that while getting abuse from 35k+ people every week?

I can see your point in some matches where refs ruin it, now I KNOW I am biased but the Stoke vs Spurs game is an example of where the ref actually ruined the game, but at the same time Kaboul got sent of for a 2nd yellow for ill discipline and im all for that, have a word with the ref by all means, dont tell him to get glasses!

I would prefer it was more like rugby. The player in question + the captain can talk to the ref, You can hear the mic so you know what is being said and they accept it.

your "rant" is a load of rubbish in my eyes.
 
It's the TV companies fault we think refs are so bad. We have all the power of replays and angles and slow-motion to arrive at what is actually the correct decision. Refs don't. And they won't, as long as they're not given the same use of technology we do.

So why can't Refs be given the technology? whats stopping them having an iPad and watching the game on that?

Goal line technology seems like a no-brainer to me
 
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