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I love AMD

It seems very over the top. Im only using it because it has all the temperatures at the bottem and because regardless i cant get coretemp to work. It worked a fwe days ago and now it doesn't. I open the bat file first and i still get an error message so ive given up. Plus i dont have to find a file to run the exe each time. is it possible to actually install core temp and cpuz? I have to run a exe each time.
 
How would installing either make any difference? (not that you can)

You would still have to click a shortcut that leads to an exe. :p

Stick with Everest its temps seem pretty accurate from what I've seen.
 
Okay, so if I stick a fan against my hand for 30 minutes, won't the surface of my hand be colder than the room?

But thats because evaporating water/sweat is transferring heat from your hand. Unfortunately, your heatsink/fan doesnt have this.

No, you're both wrong, no amount of air will make your hand colder than the room you're standing in: think about it, if the temperature in the room is 20c then the air blowing onto your hand is also 20c - how can 20c air make your hand colder than 20c? It's impossible! Your hand will feel freezing cold, but that's because your body's natural temperature is 36c and if you're blowing a lot of 20c air onto it it'll eventually start dropping below that, and if you get even 2-3 degrees below 36c it'll feel pretty cold. There is no way you can get it colder than the air around it!

It's basic physics: within a closed system (and let's assume that your room is a cold system) heat will move from the hotter object to the colder one until the two objects are at the same temperature. In this case your hand is the hotter object, the air around it is the colder object. If the air around your hand is at 20c, heat will constantly emanate from your hand to the air. Your hand will never drop to 20c because your body's biological processes are constantly generating more heat - unless you were a corpse of course, in which case your body heat would gradually dissipate until you were the same temperature as the room around you. Sweat helps to cool you down because its evaporation removes heat from your body more quickly and efficiently than radiation alone, but it's still impossible for it to drop you below ambient temperature!

Same with your computer. Your heatsink is basically a heat-exchanger: it transfers heat from your chip to the air in your room. The fans simply speed up this transfer. There's no way they can make the chip or the heatsink colder than your room. You'd need phase cooling, liquid nitrogen, or some other sort of refridgeration to do that.

As one poster said, the CPU cooler was brand new. The cooper plating would have been ice cold, and probably brought the reading down a bit.
It will only have been colder than ambient if you had it in the fridge, or outside. Even so, the time you spent handling it and putting it together would have brought it up to your room's ambient temp.

This is not about your reported temps, btw. If the temperature in your room really was around 8-10c like the weather forecast claimed then it's perfectly possible that the 16c reading in your BIOS was correct. I doubt it, because even with no central heating your house would be warmer than outside (due to heat emanating from your fireplace, your cooking stove, your fridge and other appliances, the bodies of the people living inside etc), but it's possible. I'm just pointing out that you're still under the misapprehension that it's possible for your PC to be colder than the room it's in simply by moving the air inside it about with a few fans.
 
No, you're both wrong, no amount of air will make your hand colder than the room you're standing in: think about it, if the temperature in the room is 20c then the air blowing onto your hand is also 20c - how can 20c air make your hand colder than 20c? It's impossible! Your hand will feel freezing cold, but that's because your body's natural temperature is 36c and if you're blowing a lot of 20c air onto it it'll eventually start dropping below that, and if you get even 2-3 degrees below 36c it'll feel pretty cold. There is no way you can get it colder than the air around it!

I thought it was something to do with water having a higher specific heat capacity allowing this. So even if say the ambient temperature was 36C, the evaporation of water can reduce the temperature of your hand (nerves on the surface) to below 36C.

Im probably wrong again though.
 
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I'm not saying it's impossible for a body to be at below ambient temps - if that weren't the case we'd all die of heatstroke at 40c heat, so yes, evaporation can do that. But in the case of a CPU which has been sitting in ambient temperature and has had no energy applied to it it's impossible that it would miraculously BE at a temperature below room ambient when it's turned on unless he put an ice cube on it. There's only two explanations, either his room really is as cold as the outside or his BIOS reading is wrong.
 
yup, unless your air has taken the form of a liquid with very good latent heat of evaporation or you have managed to reach thermal equilibrium within your case at 10 times atmospheres pressure and its getting slowly released, cooling the inside of your case below ambient, there is no other condition in all reality without the aid of some sort of heat exchange that will cool your cpu below room temp!
 
Core Temp just showed the first core dip to 20c, and then back up to 21.

I totally understand this isn't a 100% precise reading. My only point all along was that my motherboard wasn't faulty, or giving temps that were too far off what a dedicated app such as Core Temp would

I think you mean accurate, not precise!
 
It's obvious that 16c was a one off temp, that only lasted for a bit, and may indeed have been a few c off.

As one poster said, the CPU cooler was brand new. The cooper plating would have been ice cold, and probably brought the reading down a bit.

However, I've posted screens from within Windows showing a Core Temp application reading of 21c, even 20c, so the motherboard wasn't THAT far off.

Yes, Core Temp may be wrong too. But then the discussion is flawed any way

The cooper cooler would not have been 'ice cold' unless it had been in the freezer for a couple of hours!
 
hahahah awsome thread!!


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