I Take Issue With Some Of These So Called Dog 'Experts...'

wait theres rabbits in africa?
Does 'Bunny Chow' count? :D

A lot of the comments in that video seem to suggest that the collar and chain in this instance saved the dog's life.
My YouTube is severely limited here at work so I can't see everything and don't even get sound... but how would it have saved his life? Interfering with the attack, or something?
I think if the attack hadn't been interrupted by a human (who I assume fired a weapon?), the dog would eventually be ripped apart.

Obviously, the dog would probably have been able to get away or attack without being restrained but from the video, it seems the cat over-powered the dog without the chain being a factor.
If it ran, sure. Hell yeah!!
There are several similar vids of dogs fleeing incoming big cats... and they're all off like a shot!!

As is, I suspect it was trying to be a good guard dog and warn the Master, as Dobermanns generally do.
But in the same face-off, my money would still be on the unchained Ridgeback!!
 
but how would it have saved his life? Interfering with the attack, or something?

Cats kill pretty quickly by a lethal bite to the neck. At least for smaller prey.

Perhaps the collar, if it was made of tough leather or something, hampered the cat's ability to get a good bite in, and bought the dog time.

The cat didn't seem to have any other strategy than biting the dog's neck. No Plan B :p
 
Does 'Bunny Chow' count? :D


My YouTube is severely limited here at work so I can't see everything and don't even get sound... but how would it have saved his life? Interfering with the attack, or something?
I think if the attack hadn't been interrupted by a human (who I assume fired a weapon?), the dog would eventually be ripped apart.


If it ran, sure. Hell yeah!!
There are several similar vids of dogs fleeing incoming big cats... and they're all off like a shot!!

As is, I suspect it was trying to be a good guard dog and warn the Master, as Dobermanns generally do.
But in the same face-off, my money would still be on the unchained Ridgeback!!

According to this news report two rhodesian ridgebacks struggled against a single mountain lion.

 
According to this news report two rhodesian ridgebacks struggled against a single mountain lion.
The reporter narrating it said that, yes... it all sounded very dramatic and newsworthy, didn't it... nice and scary story for the folks at home.

As is, the owner merely said they were fighting it. They held the lion off and defended their territory (likely without any of the usual training, given that Burbank isn't the South African wild Veldt) until their Master arrived to take charge. Exactly what they were bred for and have succeeded in for over 250 years.
 
The mountain lion can't have been desperate for a meal, it would have definitely killed at least one of them.

My guess would be a fight for territory/dominance. With most animals, those end with one backing down and leaving rather than being to the death. A ridgeback is a big strong dog. 2 of them would outweigh one mountain lion. It wouldn't be worth the mountain lion going all out kill or be killed because at the very least it would be badly injured and in the wild that usually means death.
 
Your problem is you've over simplified the school-taught food chain to the point of being incorrect.

Orcas regularly hunt and kill sharks for food. Sharks are on an orcas list of prey. Sharks are an apex predator as well.

The natural order is predators kill anything smaller/weaker than themselves for food. THAT is natural order. There is no set list or firm rules stating predators only kill herbivores. That is simply an over simplification and conjecture based on your apparent lack of knowledge on the subject.

You're both right.

Predators kill whatever is available and least likely to harm them. So a predator will tend to avoid hunting predators because predators tend to be more likely to cause harm to something trying to kill them. Unless, of course, there's a big disparity in lethalness. House cats are predators, but they're not a significant danger to a lion.
 
The reporter narrating it said that, yes... it all sounded very dramatic and newsworthy, didn't it... nice and scary story for the folks at home.

As is, the owner merely said they were fighting it. They held the lion off and defended their territory (likely without any of the usual training, given that Burbank isn't the South African wild Veldt) until their Master arrived to take charge. Exactly what they were bred for and have succeeded in for over 250 years.

They aren't fighting dogs though, they were bred to hunt down lions and basically pester them until a hunter could turn up, this was usually done in packs. Their skill was in the agility to avoid lions attacks and keep it occupied while a hunter could kill it. They basically kept running around and keeping it distracted but inflicted no damage and the pack usually took casualties when doing this.

Just 2 of them together would have been no match for a mountain lion serious on making a kill. As it stood apparently one of them got clawed, lost a lot of blood and had its ear torn apart, the lion was scared off by the owner coming out with a flashlight and scaring the lion away when he heard yelps and came out to find his injured dogs.
 
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Today they are.
But that's half the breeds out there.
Poodles are high on the list of intelligent breeds with a hunting heritage and were easily trained to hunt water fowl. Today, they are mostly ornamental, with people forgetting what the gay traditional haircut was designed for, resulting in insane mullets and baubles all over the poor thing.

It's not just a matter of hairstyle. Modern poodles have been bred to produce much more hair than is practical in the wild. Even the OP admits that poodles need a haircut every 6 months - how would a wild poodle cut its hair?

I thought poodles were especially popular for this because they're one of teh top hypoallergenic breeds?
Definitely not woollen coat, though!

No dogs are popular for it. Even with a big poodle, the quantity isn't enough to make it popular. Maybe if you could farm a herd of poodles, but I doubt if that's even possible let alone a viable enough alternative to sheep to make poodle-hair fabric popular.

It's mainly the narrative that isn't particularly engaging.

No, that's not it. People are not saying "I started reading it but didn't read all of it because it wasn't interesting". They're saying "I didn't read any of it because it's too many words for me to read".
 
The mountain lion can't have been desperate for a meal, it would have definitely killed at least one of them.
It would have been outweighed by the other dog and possibly itself killed when it went for the first one. That, or just given up and looked for an easier meal... a nice poodle steak, maybe! :p

They aren't fighting dogs though, they were bred to hunt down lions and basically pester them until a hunter could turn up, this was usually done in packs.
Generally they would herd the lion toward the hunters.
And yet these two, untrained in managing a lion, were still having a go. They're not a stupid breed - They instinctively won't take on a lion unless they felt they had a chance of either winning or scaring it off.

Just 2 of them together would have been no match for a mountain lion serious on making a kill.
Perhaps not these two, but plenty before them have coped admirably.

As it stood apparently one of them got clawed, lost a lot of blood and had its ear torn apart,
Apparently?
TORN apart... lost A LOT of BLOOD...sounds like another reporter talking. Another article quotes the owner as saying, "We could hear them fighting down here by the pool". “There's blood. Stevo was bitten on the ear and suffered a few scratches”... not as exciting as being TORN apart and the dogs can't have been as müllered as suggested as they were ambling about quite happily in the video. The one being petted even looked a little pleased with himself!

One quote attributed to the owner in several articles:
"I was woken up with my dogs fighting with a mountain lion, came out, saw the lion on the hill, and he ran away. My dogs were a little bit scraped up and scratched, but they were fine,"
Fine, says he? Not torn to pieces?

Even the OP admits that poodles need a haircut every 6 months - how would a wild poodle cut its hair?
Wild poodles don't retrieve waterfowl so likely don't need haircuts, especially like that. Those that do need trimming probably scrape themselves along rough surfaces like most other animals.

No dogs are popular for it. Even with a big poodle, the quantity isn't enough to make it popular. Maybe if you could farm a herd of poodles, but I doubt if that's even possible let alone a viable enough alternative to sheep to make poodle-hair fabric popular.
Popular in relative terms. I don't mean to imply that every poodle owner has garments made from their dog! :D
Just that those few who do have done so because the 'wool' is hypoallergenic dog fur.
As is, I believe you have to brush the dog a lot and save the brushings for ages... It's a bit too weird for me to look that closely into, though. Can't really imagine myself 'wearing Fido'!!

No, that's not it. People are not saying "I started reading it but didn't read all of it because it wasn't interesting".
I *did* just say that exact thing...
 
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