Idiots and merge in turn
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I'm tempted to side with Mike on this one, the other guy was an idiot. Your reaction to boot it may not have been the smartest, but its a split second thing. Had that happened in my dads car I'd have been inclined to hoof it and carry on because it's got the torque to do a 60-80 move nice and sharpish. Had I been in mine I'd have been hard on the brakes to cut in behind him, then probably spent a few miles "venting my frustration at him" 
Every situation is different, so its not for us to second guess Mike.
As for the merging in turn debate, if you have to come to a stop in the outside lane you've judged it wrong
Every situation is different, so its not for us to second guess Mike.As for the merging in turn debate, if you have to come to a stop in the outside lane you've judged it wrong
Okay
*leaves*
*returns*
Yup I was correct
I think as a competent driver is required to know/understand the highway code, it would be obvious to one that a manoeuvre prohibited by said code and also described specifically as dangerous by said code should therefore not be executed.
Unless it was done in a non-dangerous manner, therefore the offence is not complete.
Just because the Highway Code says it's dangerous doesn't mean that every time the manoeuvre is performed it is actually dangerous.
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I can't think of an example where it isn't dangerous
unless you're in slow traffic or one lane is turning off or somethingMike comes across as being one of those merge in turn types where he has to get that one vital car in front no matter what.
See it all the time, this is why you get people hogging the lanes, it's not because they do it, it's how they do it.
You wind up with a mini convoy all trying to merge at once.
Funny thing is there's a new roundabout layout two miles down the road, i just go right and overtake every last one of them
See it all the time, this is why you get people hogging the lanes, it's not because they do it, it's how they do it.
You wind up with a mini convoy all trying to merge at once.
Funny thing is there's a new roundabout layout two miles down the road, i just go right and overtake every last one of them
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At 57mph, you might get away with a speed awareness course.
So let me get this straight.
MikeHiow was overtaking someone. They decided they didn't want to be overtaken so sped up. Not wanting his ego to be bruised, MikeHiow floored it to stay infront, and in doing so completely missed the 50MPH sign, and almost missed the speed camera. The end result, he gets a ticket, he posts online, the usual MikeHiow thread tradition continues.
Cool. Just so I'm up to speed.
Oh, and Mike, I am completely ignoring your 'merge in turn' stuff as if you were in a position to be doing 57MPH after having scrubbed off a load of speed, you were definately not in a merge in turn situation. You were in a race, you got busted.
MikeHiow was overtaking someone. They decided they didn't want to be overtaken so sped up. Not wanting his ego to be bruised, MikeHiow floored it to stay infront, and in doing so completely missed the 50MPH sign, and almost missed the speed camera. The end result, he gets a ticket, he posts online, the usual MikeHiow thread tradition continues.
Cool. Just so I'm up to speed.
Oh, and Mike, I am completely ignoring your 'merge in turn' stuff as if you were in a position to be doing 57MPH after having scrubbed off a load of speed, you were definately not in a merge in turn situation. You were in a race, you got busted.
Or perhaps he didn't want to be involved in a crash? he knew he had the faster car and could evade an accident by flooring it, its impossible to say for certain he could have avoided it by slowing, he may have got rear ended, the may have been a line of cars behind the overtakee who were just as keen to force mike off the road, it would have been a split second decision like when a LHD truck pulls out towards you because your in his blind spot. To quote Tom Cruise "You don't have time to think up there. If you think, you're dead"
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Now you've said that, Mike will swear blind its the case.
We all know that in reality, he was heading down the dual carriageway, so it was about to end, and did what many others do and thought 'if I nail it, I can get that car in front before it gets to single carriageway so I wont be stuck behind him'.
Again, when you end up accelerating to way above the speed limit, scrubbing off loads of speed, and STILL passing a 50 camera at 57, you had plenty of room to do something other than race the guy.
Mike makes it sound like the queue was 10 meters infront and there was a fleet of lorries right on his rear bumper and the only space was infront of this guy. It if was, and he still managed to pass the camera at 57, I need to get whatever brakes Mike is using!
[TW]Fox;19071434 said:
This. I've done it hundreds of times on the A30/A303, as has Fox I expect. And with something with a bit of grunt its a few seconds of fun if nothing else.
But if I got a ticket for speeding doing it, I wouldn't try to make excuses about merge in turn and avoiding accidents, that's just dumb.
You're right, I did think "if I get in front of this person, I won't be stuck behind him" that is why anyone overtakes isn't it?
Me putting my foot down was down to a split second decision when the overtakee put his foot down.
Me putting my foot down was down to a split second decision when the overtakee put his foot down.
I'll suck it up.
I'll take a few minutes to pop it on Pepipoo, just to get some informed opinions, but I won't be jumping through hoops to do anything.
Of course, this is just a letter asking who the driver was. They may (correct my if I'm wrong) simply offer me a speed awareness course, or they may decide to take me to court, but most likely seems £60/3 points - I just need to tell them who was driving for now.
I'll take a few minutes to pop it on Pepipoo, just to get some informed opinions, but I won't be jumping through hoops to do anything.
Of course, this is just a letter asking who the driver was. They may (correct my if I'm wrong) simply offer me a speed awareness course, or they may decide to take me to court, but most likely seems £60/3 points - I just need to tell them who was driving for now.
Its at that point of the proceedings i like to try and find some one skint to take my points for a few quid
Nah only kidding.So I was travelling down the A12 today, and there is a small stretch of dual carriage way where at the end there is a merge-in-turn. I opt to use all of this merge in turn, until some idiot decides he's going to accelerate when I'm pretty much already past him.
Not usually an issue, the Clio was a fair bit faster, the real annoyance came when I discovered a speed camera at the end. I slowed down back to the speed limit after that encounter, but where the camera is on single carriageway, the limit is 60 - so not only would I have had to shave off the speed from the overtake, but an additional 10MPH as well. There is seconds in it, but my gut feeling is that I was still over.
I require no sympathy - I was just having a rant. That'll be my first speeding ticket in 6 years
So you were just racing the other guy to the end of the carriageway then? As merge in turn is not recommended at high speeds..Highway code said:
Indeed, you were overtaking just prior to a merge in lanes.
You got clocked at an indicated 60, said you said you had already had to scrub 10mph off + the difference from overtaking. You must have been doing at least an indicated 80. On a 50mph. At a merge in point. When you had a guy on your left acting unpredictably and knob like.
Well played
Highway code said:
You got clocked at an indicated 60, said you said you had already had to scrub 10mph off + the difference from overtaking. You must have been doing at least an indicated 80. On a 50mph. At a merge in point. When you had a guy on your left acting unpredictably and knob like.
Well played