If you don't have an iPhone...

bhavv · 9 May 2011 at 20:18

wannabedamned said:
Check out any of the Dell Inspirons over £400.

OMG!

http://www.dell.com/uk/p/inspiron-17r/pd

At that price for the specs I seriously want one!

Dewotter · 9 May 2011 at 20:21

bhavv said:
OMG!

http://www.dell.com/uk/p/inspiron-17r/pd

At that price for the specs I seriously want one!

I'll just enjoy a multitouch trackpad that no Windows machine can compare with.

wannabedamned · 9 May 2011 at 20:21

BunnyKillBot said:
Wow, i might just be beat.

Though i am somewhat mystified by the ambiguous 'Graphics - HD Graphics' next to the graphics chipset. Lets do a bit of digging. Oh yes, here we are:

Intel HD Graphics

The Macbook has an integrated graphics solution from nvidia, miles better than the Intel chipset and therefore: not a valid comparison

Try again.

So the XPS 15 that's £200 cheaper? sporting an Nvidia graphics chip better than the Macbook one? Has more memory, and a bigger drive? and its an I5?

What you say to that one.

cu3ed · 9 May 2011 at 20:23

Raikiri said:
+£120 on top of the £49 for the 1Tb, so £82 more.

Ahh so your basing it on what the 1TB you get as standard would cost as opposed to what it would cost as a stand alone?

LeJosh · 9 May 2011 at 20:26

RKO said:
I'll just enjoy a multitouch trackpad that no Windows machine can compare with.

I don't mind who slings what but trackpads are created by the devil himself. :mad:

bhavv · 9 May 2011 at 20:26

RKO said:
I'll just enjoy a multitouch trackpad that no Windows machine can compare with.

I'd rather have a Razer or Logitech mouse thanks.

cu3ed · 9 May 2011 at 20:26

wannabedamned said:
So the XPS 15 that's £200 cheaper? sporting an Nvidia graphics chip better than the Macbook one? Has more memory, and a bigger drive? and its an I5?

What you say to that one.

I would say take the two of them side by side..boot them, open Ai in each and open a file to size to billboard size and see what happens, have seen this first hand...was embarressing to say the least.

What ive come to discover is that the sum of the work each one can do has little to do with all out spec TBH.

SDK^ · 9 May 2011 at 20:26

wannabedamned said:
So the XPS 15 that's £200 cheaper? sporting an Nvidia graphics chip better than the Macbook one? Has more memory, and a bigger drive? and its an I5?

What you say to that one.

It tells me that the consumer doesn't value the Dell brand as highly as the Apple brand

flibbage0 · 9 May 2011 at 20:27

Why isn't this locked yet?

This has obviously gone completely off topic.

Dewotter · 9 May 2011 at 20:27

LeJosh said:
I don't mind who slings what but trackpads are created by the devil himself.

You should try an Apple one then. It's actually big enough to fit a few fingers on.

Dewotter · 9 May 2011 at 20:29

bhavv said:
I'd rather have a Razer or Logitech mouse thanks.

You're implying they don't go hand in hand. Remember the trackpad fully supports their gestures. So I can swipe back and forth in Finder with one hand and move the cursor around with my Razor DeathAdder mouse.

LeJosh · 9 May 2011 at 20:29

RKO said:
You should try an Apple one then. It's actually big enough to fit a few fingers on.

I've had a shot of a standard macbook, hated it.

I've yet to try macbook pro though. I'll come back here and announce my hatred yet again probably.

Dewotter · 9 May 2011 at 20:30

LeJosh said:
I've had a shot of a standard macbook, hated it.

I've yet to try macbook pro though. I'll come back here and announce my hatred yet again probably.

Just remember to turn on secondary click.

Although I find two finger tap more intuitive.

Glaucus · 9 May 2011 at 20:31

chaosdestro0 said:
Just looking at overclockers hard drive list it would most likely be the one around the £80 mark as the hard drives over £80 are Sata 3, Sata 3 in a x58 machine is a bit of a waste. Equally sata 3 on a mechanical hard drive is still a waste, but I doubt they would use Sata 3 as they would mention it.
Here

The original hard drive is sata 3, so the 2tb one will almost certainly be sata3 6gbps

BunnyKillBot · 9 May 2011 at 20:31

wannabedamned said:
So the XPS 15 that's £200 cheaper? sporting an Nvidia graphics chip better than the Macbook one? Has more memory, and a bigger drive? and its an I5?

What you say to that one.

The MacBook good olde bahvv selected is a 13". Dell don't actually do their XPS series in a 13" screen

The closest in terms of build quality you will find is probably a Samsung Q320 or a Sony Vaio S series

flibbage0 · 9 May 2011 at 20:32

Apple make good software that runs well on low spec.

But tbh for the average user who uses browser, video player and documents Windows is fine.

Also before everyone starts telling me to go away, consider Linux, I've run Linux mint on a 1gb RAM machine that had a 1.67ghz dual core and the hard drive was half full (80gb out of 160gb) and it would start up in seconds.

Linux isn't what it used to be, it is getting more user friendly, people need to wake up. Only disadvantage is gaming, but then again most mac users don't game on there mac.

Oh yeh its also free.

bhavv · 9 May 2011 at 20:33

I always thought that Macs were easier to use than PCs, and more stable, but when I first used one I couldnt find the power button, took me a while to figure out to save to USB, and the thing froze up and crashed when I simply pulled my USB stick out after the file had finished copying.

Meh, PCs are more stable and easier to use.

wannabedamned · 9 May 2011 at 20:34

cu3ed said:
I would say take the two of them side by side..boot them, open Ai in each and open a file to size to billboard size and see what happens, have seen this first hand...was embarressing to say the least.

What ive come to discover is that the sum of the work each one can do has little to do with all out spec TBH.

Indeed, but then we all know there are things that one can handle and the other cant. It works both ways/

Logic for example on Mac, superior to anything on PC. Awesome piece of software, and I would own a Mac just for this software, if my interest ever moved from a hobby to a more full time interest

But also, Traktor DJ, As great as it is on both formats, I've seen its struggling point on Mac. Loading a 300GB Mp3\CDG library. And then trying to do a search afterwards, The Mac really does struggle, crawl, it locks up as it cant handle common search terms. Like the, and, etc.

The same software on PC, with the same library. No problems.

Dewotter · 9 May 2011 at 20:35

bhavv said:
I always thought that Macs were easier to use than PCs, and more stable, but when I first used one I couldnt find the power button, took me a while to figure out to save to USB, and the thing froze up and crashed when I simply pulled my USB stick out after the file had finished copying.

Meh, PCs are more stable and easier to use.

I don't understand your point. Of course someone from a PC background isnt going to find them immediately usable. If everything was the same then there wouldn't be any choice. Engage common sense before posting.

wannabedamned said:
But also, Traktor DJ, As great as it is on both formats, I've seen its struggling point on Mac. Loading a 300GB Mp3\CDG library. And then trying to do a search afterwards, The Mac really does struggle, crawl, it locks up as it cant handle common terms. Like the, and, etc.

The same software on PC. No problems.

Do they state the Mac version is fully written from the ground up or is it a half assed port?

flibbage0 · 9 May 2011 at 20:36

Oh yeh forgot about Logic, only reason I would buy a Mac would be:

IPS screen and Logic.