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Would it annoy you if I said i'd really like it to be a hatchback? I mean I've thought about this long and hard, I would say it's taken 6 months just to get to where I am.

I can't even explain why I want a hot hatch. It's like an itch, and I feel I must scratch it. I also have other itches - like an Evo itch, and an E90 M3 itch. But I can't afford either of those (yet). :o
 
You're not allowed to want what you want, you have to want what OcUK Motors wants :p

Personally, if an R32 was in anyway a consideration it'd have to be that. I know full well it's not meant to be as dynamically pleasing as the GTI and other hot hatch rivals but that engine... I just love them.
 
It wouldn't annoy me in the slightest (why would it?!) :)

I think if i had to have a hotch (ha, that was a typo, but it works nicely) i would have something like the GTI ED30 or Focus ST facelift.

The Mazda 3 MPS will freefall in value, the Golf R32, whilst has a nice engine noise, uses more fuel, only has 17bhp more than the ED30 and isn't supposed to be as sharp as the GTI and the Seat Leon has, quite simply, one of the worst interiors i've laid eyes on. It's hideous.
 
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Kenai said:
Personally, if an R32 was in anyway a consideration it'd have to be that. I know full well it's not meant to be as dynamically pleasing as the GTI and other hot hatch rivals but that engine... I just love them.
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This is true. I'm glad i don't have to make that decision because how a car sounds is one of the most important things to me. But then so is driving pleasure :/
 
Kenai said:
You're not allowed to want what you want, you have to want what OcUK Motors wants :p

Personally, if an R32 was in anyway a consideration it'd have to be that. I know full well it's not meant to be as dynamically pleasing as the GTI and other hot hatch rivals but that engine... I just love them.
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Gaygle said:
It wouldn't annoy me in the slightest (why would it?!) :)

I think if i had to have a hotch (ha, that was a typo, but it works nicely) i would have something like the GTI ED30 or Focus ST facelift.

The Mazda 3 MPS will freefall in value, the Golf R32, whilst has a nice engine noise, uses more fuel and isn't supposed to be as sharp as the GTI and the Seat Leon has, quite simply, one of the worst interiors i've laid eyes on. It's hideous.
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I am coming from a Mk.2 Leon and the interior doesn't bother me that much. I'd just like it to not rattle or fall to bits (hence why nothing French made the list). [Edit] And CC is a requirement.

Also my tentative limit for power is around 225bhp upwards, i'd like it to feel considerably quicker than what I currently have (otherwise what's the point) and i'd like nothing older than about 2005/06.

Also VW's dealer network seems to have a very odd idea of what the Ed.30s are worth. None of them on there are anywhere near £10K!

eatcustard said:
Buy the focus for about £8k
spend the rest on a MCS and be happy
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MCS?

Oh, and the FN2 CTR is really not my cup of tea at all, coming from something that is basically all TORKS I think it would drive me insane. It's one of those cars that if you want one, you just "know" it, and I really don't. :)
 
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Tute said:
The Focus I drove was stock and a good drive with a decent engine but didn't feel as urgent as the Mazda or Golf, and it's also hard to get one with a decent spec
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An ST-3 should be very easy to come by, there's not many options on top of that (Sat Nav + Privacy Glass is all that comes to mind). You really need to drive a remapped Focus if you're aiming for the Mountune kit as it becomes a completely different car (I read plenty on the owners forums stating such and didn't believe a word of it. I got it remapped and my god, the posts don't do it justice!)

You don't necessarily need to go Mountune either (it's not a very popular option due to the £1,200 price point when other tuners provide the same bang for a lot less buck but at the cost of your warranty), at that price however I'm presuming you're buying a one that's still in warranty and want to keep it?
 
My 2 pence....I've owned an R32 for just over 2 months now and to be honest I've not stopped smiling while driving it. I don't for a second regret buying this over the GTI (not sure if an ED30 would sway my decision?).

As others have mentioned, the noise is just addictive, it does have quite a decent selection of toys as standard with many being upgraded to include the RNS-510 nav unit and it genuinely feels like it's been put together properly. i.e. nothing rattles, squeaks or feels flimsy. While the GTI (and I guess the ED30 too) is probably sharper in the twistys, the R32 just feels planted everywhere (it felt more planted than the GTI I test drove). I don't drive like my hairs on fire but even still I've have no drama, understeer, wheels spinning etc in our current weather conditions on wet/greasy roads even when driving spiritedly and pulling away quickly from the lights. It really does inspire confidence.

According to the Roadtrip app I've been averaging about 24mpg over roughly 900 miles of mixed town, a-road and motorway which admittedly isn't amazing but still, the cost of petrol has dropped a few pence lately :p
 
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An ST-3 should be very easy to come by, there's not many options on top of that (Sat Nav + Privacy Glass is all that comes to mind). You really need to drive a remapped Focus if you're aiming for the Mountune kit as it becomes a completely different car (I read plenty on the owners forums stating such and didn't believe a word of it. I got it remapped and my god, the posts don't do it justice!)

You don't necessarily need to go Mountune either (it's not a very popular option due to the £1,200 price point when other tuners provide the same bang for a lot less buck but at the cost of your warranty), at that price however I'm presuming you're buying a one that's still in warranty and want to keep it?
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DZCC is the biggest one. Then there's the smaller stuff like the stereo upgrades, the privacy glass, keyless entry/start, PDC, USB/BT, and satnav. DZCC is not that common really, and ones with it tend to sell well before I can get there to have a look at the car in question.

I thought of the Mountune packages as i'm considering going with a warranty, not sure yet mind. Is the official Ford warranty worth bothering with or is it a "warranty direct special"?

PMKeates said:
Get one and... never make a downgrade in the future?
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It's just not the right time for an M3, yet.

cokecan72 said:
My 2 pence....I've owned an R32 for just over 2 months now and to be honest I've not stopped smiling while driving it. I don't for a second regret buying this over the GTI (not sure if an ED30 would sway my decision?).

As others have mentioned, the noise is just addictive, it does have quite a decent selection of toys as standard with many being upgraded to include the RNS-510 nav unit and it genuinely feels like it's been put together properly. i.e. nothing rattles, squeaks or feels flimsy. While the GTI (and I guess the ED30 too) is probably sharper in the twistys, the R32 just feels planted everywhere (it felt more planted than the GTI I test drove). I don't drive like my hairs on fire but even still I've have no drama, understeer, wheels spinning etc in our current weather conditions on wet/greasy roads even when driving spiritedly and pulling away quickly from the lights. It really does inspire confidence.

According to the Roadtrip app I've been averaging about 24mpg over roughly 900 miles of mixed town, a-road and motorway which admittedly isn't amazing but still, the cost of petrol has dropped a few pence lately :p
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Fuel isn't a massive concern. My usage has dropped a fair bit and poor economy really goes with the territory with this type of car. I'd like to avoid the £460 tax out of principle if I can though (pre-March 2006?).

What did you pay for it and how old is it?
 
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I'd look for something less than half the original budget or look for something fast fun instead, still at about half the original budget and pocket the rest for running costs
 
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