Illegal file sharing on the Internet, what should we do?

DiscoDave · 28 Feb 2009 at 12:03

Simmz said:
Little bit off topic, but I know people who pirate movies just for the plain and simple reasons that cinema prices are too high, and you always get some annoying little ***** who talk the whole way through it and ruin the movie.

I went to see the new Brad Pitt film at the weekend with the mrs, and we had 3 little idiots who just wouldn't shut up. I asked them politely I then got someone from the cinema to try remove them but sod all happened. Everyone got frustrated and some people even walked out. Speaking with other people it seems this happens more and more, and for that reason i'd happily pirate a movie to eliminate the above.

This.

I recently moved back to my hometown after uni and went to the cinema here, cost like £7 to see it. I'm not a cheapskate by any means, but I can't really see why I should spend £7 to sit for 2 hours being annoyed by kids/chavs.

fendi · 28 Feb 2009 at 12:04

codec said:
my personal idea would be to let ISP's charge you for downloads of individual media files larger than say 100mb. Because we all know the only files large enough for that are series videos like lost or actual movies or applications.

How would that work? They would just .rar them to < 100mb. Extract to whatever the final size would be.

DiscoDave · 28 Feb 2009 at 12:06

codec said:
my personal idea would be to let ISP's charge you for downloads of individual media files larger than say 100mb. Because we all know the only files large enough for that are series videos like lost or actual movies or applications.

lol.... good luck with that.

jaybee · 28 Feb 2009 at 18:26

codec said:
my personal idea would be to let ISP's charge you for downloads of individual media files larger than say 100mb. Because we all know the only files large enough for that are series videos like lost or actual movies or applications.

Oh dear.

grenned · 28 Feb 2009 at 18:59

I would say that this is the way i would see it if you just read the press, unless you have really used it, you wouldn't understand the fact that rar's will be used

eXor · 28 Feb 2009 at 19:27

Government : Pass legislation that puts the burden on ISPS. Hefty fines.

ISPS : Blanket ban torrent traffic, http file servers ( Rapidshare e.t.c. ), Usenet, IRC.

If massive downloads come via an encrypted connection or over x GB is downloaded in a month, user must provide an itemised report on request.

Failure to account for large downloads results in a couple of warnings then account loss.

Extreme. Even so, in the post-apocalyptic environment that we'd find ourselves in, the weapon of choice would probably be USB sticks. Stop and search would probably go through the roof.

grenned · 28 Feb 2009 at 19:33

eXor said:
Government : Pass legislation that puts the burden on ISPS. Hefty fines.

ISPS : Blanket ban torrent traffic, http file servers ( Rapidshare e.t.c. ), Usenet, IRC.

If massive downloads come via an encrypted connection or over x GB is downloaded in a month, user must provide an itemised report on request.

Failure to account for large downloads results in a couple of warnings then account loss.

Extreme. Even so, in the post-apocalyptic environment that we'd find ourselves in, the weapon of choice would probably be USB sticks. Stop and search would probably go through the roof.

That would never happen, realize how much that would cost to set up, who would pay for it, I cannot see ISP's and government willing to help the big wigs load up their pay packets, unfortunately there are more pressing issues in the world at the moment,

The only real way to go is to hit the uploaders of all this "stuff" and try and track them down, again , money/time/effort involved may mean this isnt sustainable.

The Mad Rapper · 28 Feb 2009 at 19:50

File sharing is amazing, I do not understand what the issue is. I use BT to d/l various US series that I do not have access to in the UK. I really don't see the harm.

Trifid · 28 Feb 2009 at 20:47

eXor said:
Government : Pass legislation that puts the burden on ISPS. Hefty fines.

ISPS : Blanket ban torrent traffic, http file servers ( Rapidshare e.t.c. ), Usenet, IRC.

If massive downloads come via an encrypted connection or over x GB is downloaded in a month, user must provide an itemised report on request.

Failure to account for large downloads results in a couple of warnings then account loss.

Extreme. Even so, in the post-apocalyptic environment that we'd find ourselves in, the weapon of choice would probably be USB sticks. Stop and search would probably go through the roof.

Solution, rent a server in a non-nazi country, set up VPN and have all traffic sent to it. When asked for itemised report produce evidence showing backing up/downloading home videos across the link.

rsatd · 2 Mar 2009 at 10:53

eXor said:
Government : Pass legislation that puts the burden on ISPS. Hefty fines.

Hurrah, ISP' sgo out of business

ISPS : Blanket ban torrent traffic, http file servers ( Rapidshare e.t.c. ), Usenet, IRC.

Retarded, the other weekend I downloaded official Ragnarok online client via a torrent. The link to the torrent is available via the its official website. There are many application outside pirating for torrents.

So if I write a piece of software that generates a couple of gig worth of logfile and wish to send it to someone that would be illegal? Absolutely bonkers!

If massive downloads come via an encrypted connection or over x GB is downloaded in a month, user must provide an itemised report on request.

Here you go mr curious, I downloaded 20 gig's worth of high quality photos from a photographer friend :rolleyes:

. You know those that I lost last month from my hdd crash.

Failure to account for large downloads results in a couple of warnings then account loss.

Extreme. Even so, in the post-apocalyptic environment that we'd find ourselves in, the weapon of choice would probably be USB sticks. Stop and search would probably go through the roof.

I am hoping the above post was a joke though :eek:

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bledd · 2 Mar 2009 at 11:02

codec said:
my personal idea would be to let ISP's charge you for downloads of individual media files larger than say 100mb. Because we all know the only files large enough for that are series videos like lost or actual movies or applications.

there goes my ability to download nvidia graphics card drivers

fendi · 2 Mar 2009 at 14:10

The Mad Rapper said:
File sharing is amazing, I do not understand what the issue is. I use BT to d/l various US series that I do not have access to in the UK. I really don't see the harm.

Many would say you are "stealing" as you can order them off of the net.

NeilF · 2 Mar 2009 at 14:54

The Mad Rapper said:
File sharing is amazing, I do not understand what the issue is. I use BT to d/l various US series that I do not have access to in the UK. I really don't see the harm.

OK... Move a few years into the future where many more people download them instead of watching them on TV, or buying them... Why are those TV series made? To make money from advertising or DVD sales? Without people watching the adverts or byuing the DVDs what will happen? The series will not get made...

Dj_Jestar · 2 Mar 2009 at 15:01

eXor said:
Government : Pass legislation that puts the burden on ISPS. Hefty fines.

ISPS : Blanket ban torrent traffic, http file servers ( Rapidshare e.t.c. ), Usenet, IRC.

If massive downloads come via an encrypted connection or over x GB is downloaded in a month, user must provide an itemised report on request.

Failure to account for large downloads results in a couple of warnings then account loss.

Extreme. Even so, in the post-apocalyptic environment that we'd find ourselves in, the weapon of choice would probably be USB sticks. Stop and search would probably go through the roof.

er.. just lol.

Trifid · 2 Mar 2009 at 15:20

NeilFawcett said:
OK... Move a few years into the future where many more people download them instead of watching them on TV, or buying them... Why are those TV series made? To make money from advertising or DVD sales? Without people watching the adverts or byuing the DVDs what will happen? The series will not get made...

And it goes back round to their business model needs to change to compete with piracy. If they released the series on the internet paid for by advertising or monthly subscription charge than we will have an alternative. At the moment we don't really (waiting a year and to be charged £60 is not really a alternative.)

RDM · 2 Mar 2009 at 15:23

Trifid said:
And it goes back round to their business model needs to change to compete with piracy. If they released the series on the internet paid for by advertising or monthly subscription charge than we will have an alternative. At the moment we don't really (waiting a year and to be charged £60 is not really a alternative.)

Don't really think it would make a great deal of difference. Steam and the like haven't stopped software piracy, iTunes hasn't stopped music piracy. People want stuff for free.

NeilF · 2 Mar 2009 at 16:44

Trifid said:
And it goes back round to their business model needs to change to compete with piracy. If they released the series on the internet paid for by advertising or monthly subscription charge than we will have an alternative. At the moment we don't really (waiting a year and to be charged £60 is not really a alternative.)

Nope... It will just be pirated again...

grenned · 2 Mar 2009 at 16:46

Rsatd he he he, very true though in reality

orderoftheflame · 2 Mar 2009 at 16:51

Trifid said:
And it goes back round to their business model needs to change to compete with piracy. If they released the series on the internet paid for by advertising or monthly subscription charge than we will have an alternative. At the moment we don't really (waiting a year and to be charged £60 is not really a alternative.)

Whether the people can admit it or not. The cost of things is not the reason the pirates do what they do, greed is.

If an entire season cost a few quid, with an on demand high quality download service, people would still pirate it.

NeilF · 2 Mar 2009 at 16:52

orderoftheflame said:
Whether the people can admit it or not. The cost of things is not the reason the pirates do what they do, greed is.

If an entire season cost a few quid, with an on demand high quality download service, people would still pirate it.

Nope... The other day I wanted to get the latest Peter Pan movie for the kids...

It was less than £5. I'm happy to pay that for a quality DVD delivered to my hand...