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mazza7282 said:
Personally, id like to see someone else floor a car around a roundabout and actually catch it back (with rear wheel drive) i know people who can but honestly who else can on ere ?

I don't think anyone else on "ere" is stupid enough to throw a RWD car around a roundabout.

Well, I can name one or two ;)

toy_soldier said:
Sorry but LOL. :D

I nearly made the same mistake :D
 
mazza7282 said:
Personally, id like to see someone else floor a car around a roundabout and actually catch it back (with rear wheel drive) i know people who can but honestly who else can on ere ?

This is why someone your age should not be driving a car like that.
 
mazza7282 said:
Personally, id like to see someone else floor a car around a roundabout and actually catch it back (with rear wheel drive) i know people who can but honestly who else can on ere ?

I've had rear-wheel drive cars with the back-end out on deserted roads and on track before, not spun it yet. I've had the little Fiat almost 90deg to the direction of travel on ice and brought it back.

Like I said earlier - buy a Trabant.

mazza7282 said:
So once again i wont be replying for a while because of once again, more critisim and yet i dont personally see me doing anything wrong.

*Sigh*

Bye then. Don't let the door knock you in the backside on the way out.
 
[TW]Fox said:
This is why someone your age should not be driving a car like that.

Utter rubbish imo.

Age has got sod all to do with spinning a RWD motor (let alone a 2 litre slushbox Omega). It would be a great shame to put all younger drivers in the same bracket as the OP tbh.

RWD is not taboo. It's merely a different concept that requires a different driving style, and a little care / common sense when gaining the first early experiences of it.

Making vague and incorrect sweeping generalisations to portray what you really think but can't say due to 'No Personal Attack' rules isn't really in keeping with a lot of the factual stuff you post.
 
Kingy said:
Utter rubbish imo.

Age has got sod all to do with spinning a RWD motor

On the contrary, age has everything to do with it. Why do you think insurance is so expensive for younger drivers?

At a young age you are far less likely to have the necessary driving experiance to be able to deal with and correct the back end swinging out.
 
Trojan said:
On the contrary, age has everything to do with it. Why do you think insurance is so expensive for younger drivers?

At a young age you are far less likely to have the necessary driving experiance to be able to deal with and correct the back end swinging out.

It is because the attitude of young drivers on average is worse then older people. As long as the younger person has the correct attitude there is no reason why they cannot drive a RWD.
 
saitrix said:
It is because the attitude of young drivers on average is worse then older people. As long as the younger person has the correct attitude there is no reason why they cannot drive a RWD.

It's not just attitude though, it comes down to experience and ability as well, both of which most younger people don't possess.

Yes you're correct in that there are always going to exceptions, and a 17 year old could feasibly own a RWD car from day 1 and not bin it, but let's face it, they ARE an exception.
 
Trojan said:
On the contrary, age has everything to do with it. Why do you think insurance is so expensive for younger drivers?

At a young age you are far less likely to have the necessary driving experiance to be able to deal with and correct the back end swinging out.

Precisely my point. Experience and ability is the lacking factor.

While a young age often means that experience has yet to be gained, there are many young proficient RWD drivers that have gained this experience and come out unscathed.

Statistics will undoubtedly show that younger drivers have more accidents, that isn't being disputed. However, to imply that all young drivers shouldn't be driving anything that is RWD is absurd imo.
 
Trojan said:
It's not just attitude though, it comes down to experience and ability as well, both of which most younger people don't possess.

Yes you're correct in that there are always going to exceptions, and a 17 year old could feasibly own a RWD car from day 1 and not bin it, but let's face it, they ARE an exception.

But normally with someone with the correct attitude would also make sure they do training for a car. Like i have done 3 hours on a skid pan with a rwd car. I got very use to having the rear end out with it, without blowing my own horn too much i would say i probably could manage a rwd car. Infact my next car i want is rwd, i will do another skid pan training session before buying it though.
 
saitrix said:
But normally with someone with the correct attitude would also make sure they do training for a car. Like i have done 3 hours on a skid pan with a rwd car. I got very use to having the rear end out with it, without blowing my own horn too much i would say i probably could manage a rwd car. Infact my next car i want is rwd, i will do another skid pan training session before buying it though.

\o/

^^^ Sensible, not foolproof, but sensible imo.

Youthful exuberance is generally more frequently found in the younger crowd, but any age group that takes a responsible attitude similar to that of the above is less likely to stack it than average Joe mid-life crisis that's sold his astra and bought an M3 'cos it's faster'.

/EDIT FWIW, I'm 23 and driving a FWD motor, so not biased, just disagreeing. :)
 
Kingy said:
Statistics will undoubtedly show that younger drivers have more accidents, that isn't being disputed. However, to imply that all young drivers shouldn't be driving anything that is RWD is absurd imo.

Thats not what I am implying, I am simply imply that most should not - of which he is one. I'm a young driver and I'm buying an RWD car so clearly I cannot think all young drivers should avoid them.
 
[TW]Fox said:
Thats not what I am implying, I am simply imply that most should not - of which he is one. I'm a young driver and I'm buying an RWD car so clearly I cannot think all young drivers should avoid them.

I thought you were ~21?

My apologies if I'm being seen as jumping on a slightly mis-worded quote, that certainly wasn't the intention.
 
Age has nothing to do with it, and experience and ability are 2 completly different things, I have raced twin engined karts, done track days in cars and on bikes, and Im 20. I like to think I have a good ammount of ability, certainly more that average jo (definetly more than mazza :D ). but obviously only a limited 2.5 years of experience. I think annother few months of focus ownership and I will be ready for something a lot faster, and actually be able to drive it. It will probably be RWD but thats not decided yet. :D
 
saitrix said:
I think he is 22 now...

That's certainly older than my first thought of age when people mention 'young drivers'.

Do we know how old the OP is? Contrary to first impressions, it seems he's at least 17...
 
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