I'm sick of emailin 20+ members so here it is......MATCHED BETTING by anksta

R5Rich said:
Right I have a quick question about Bonus bagging again....

Looking on the blackholebonus site it says for VC "expected profit £48" How does it have an expected profit of £48? Surely you just wager £500 put in a claim wager that £50 and then quit when you get ahead? So really you shouldnt ever be down? Unless you just decide to quit?

Because you might not win and lose every hand equally.

The odds for blackjack are 48% win 52% lose (around that) so if everything goes by the odds, you get £48.

If you use the blackjack strategy table for that casino, its just luck what you end up at. On one i ended up walking away with £20 of the bonus, on 888.com i walked away with 4xbonus ($250 i got up to when i hit the wager requirements, deposited $50, got $50 and played with that to wager).
 
bolger said:
Because you might not win and lose every hand equally.

The odds for blackjack are 48% win 52% lose (around that) so if everything goes by the odds, you get £48.

If you use the blackjack strategy table for that casino, its just luck what you end up at. On one i ended up walking away with £20 of the bonus, on 888.com i walked away with 4xbonus ($250 i got up to when i hit the wager requirements, deposited $50, got $50 and played with that to wager).


The odds of blackjack are just odds, a football match can have odds of 100 to 1 but that doesnt mean thats whats goin to happen.

If you played an infinite number of blackjack hands, the odds would eventually even out but theres no guarantee when they'll even out. I played 400 hands and I had odds more like 28 to 72 so just be careful.
 
anksta said:
if you use moneybookes then its instant transfer to betfair and things so much easier to change money around, think its a lot quicker goin to the account as well.

Ooh nice tip, might look into that.

Just started bonusing sportingodds, in their T and Cs it looks like to get the 4 £25 bets you need to put in qualifiers EVERY TIME before you get the next bet, and you have to email them requesting the next bet on A MONDAY SPECIFICALLY, and if you miss a monday in the month that you sign up you lose out.

Is this right? Seems like either people haven't done this one or they're finally getting wise to the scheme. Or maybe you can just keep emailing for the bonus and they'll give it to you regardless.
 
hungryhungry123 said:
Ooh nice tip, might look into that.

Just started bonusing sportingodds, in their T and Cs it looks like to get the 4 £25 bets you need to put in qualifiers EVERY TIME before you get the next bet, and you have to email them requesting the next bet on A MONDAY SPECIFICALLY, and if you miss a monday in the month that you sign up you lose out.

Is this right? Seems like either people haven't done this one or they're finally getting wise to the scheme. Or maybe you can just keep emailing for the bonus and they'll give it to you regardless.


Na that sounds right, bookies arent bothered about this, they'll give you the bonuses as long as you do what they say.

Remember moneybookies disqualifies you from certain bookies.
 
casino or bookies?


Whatever bonus I'm playin for, if it doesn't come in straight away I always send them a clueless email such as even though I lost my bet will I still receive the bonus? Or somethin along those lines.
 
Its on the casino for the £50. I also had a bit of a bad run on the blackjack last night but down to my own fault really as soon as my bonus clears I can recoup that easy enough :)
 
well the VC Casino betting has worked fine - £40 referal from QUIDCO now showing and only put £25 into VC Casino playing blackjack and still have £35 in the account. £50 for basically nothing.

Nice one - Thanks!
 
R5Rich said:
Also my referal thing didnt work :confused: Didnt make a single penny from that....


which referral? If its Quidco then it might just be takin a while to track, if its betfair then you have to get to 50 Betfair Points, log in, click my account then Betfair points statement.
 
Made £64 from the William Hill casino :)

The bonus was £100 so I expected more profit and wagering £2500 took ages at £1 per hand and I can't even withdraw my funds until tomorrow because they take 3 days to check my debit card but I'm happy anyway
 
escape sanity said:
Made £64 from the William Hill casino :)

The bonus was £100 so I expected more profit and wagering £2500 took ages at £1 per hand and I can't even withdraw my funds until tomorrow because they take 3 days to check my debit card but I'm happy anyway

How many hours did you spend doing it?
 
Didn't check when I started, would say about 7 hours in total. Works out to £9 an hour which isn't bad for something so simple even though it is far less than you can get doing this.

Now on the VC Casino. It has a bonus of £50 if you wager £500 or £250 if you wager £5000. Already wagered £500 and I have a bit of a dillema. If I was to end now, I would make £66 profit or I could keep going for a lot longer until I can get the £250 bonus.
 
hungryhungry123 said:
Ooh nice tip, might look into that.

Just started bonusing sportingodds, in their T and Cs it looks like to get the 4 £25 bets you need to put in qualifiers EVERY TIME before you get the next bet, and you have to email them requesting the next bet on A MONDAY SPECIFICALLY, and if you miss a monday in the month that you sign up you lose out.

Is this right? Seems like either people haven't done this one or they're finally getting wise to the scheme. Or maybe you can just keep emailing for the bonus and they'll give it to you regardless.

Yep that's right. I'm working through them at the moment, I've already done sportingbet (you can do both, but I'd finish one first - and it's advised to use different usernames/emails/cards if possible).

If you forget to email on Monday most people still get their bet if they email another day (or just call them and claim you did ;)). Even if you miss a week as long as you do the qualifier the next week you should be fine. If you give them a call they are very helpful, my first week at Sportingbet didn't get the bonus, I called them and got it credited instantly.


Also, the qualifier must be placed at odds of above 1.67 (or similar) but you more than likely will want to use high odds to lose there anyway. If you do happen to win (most people can't seem to lose at them :D) you can use your current balance as your qualifier for the next week, you don't need to keep depositing £25 provided you already have £25 in your account.

Oh, and make sure you use your freebet within a week :).
 
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Great read - thanks Anksta for the effort you've put in. Really like the system (Bookies - haven't looked at the casino one yet). I've signed up with Betfred and Betfair, and am looking for my first bet. Just realised that the Footie hasn't started yet, so it's difficult to find a lay with enough liquidity and a bet with odds of 2:1 or better to qualify for the £25 from each. What sports are you betting on at the moment - or do I have to wait until next month for the games to start again?

(Kicking myself too - signed up on the coupon at BetFred for the £25 only to find that they're offering £50 ATM - D'oh - will have to see if I can blag it!)
 
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There are some football matches going on. I tried this week and there were some U20 internationals, UEFA Cup and Champions League qualifiers and the Asian Cup. You need to wait until 12 hours before the even at most to get enough liquidity

I think the US baseball league is on at the moment
 
Thanks for that - baseball is on ATM - would you mind checking my maths quickly (1st bet nerves :p )

Bet: Chicago Cubs £25 @ 2.1
Lay: Chicago Cubs £24.65 @ 2.18

Liability: £53.73
Net loss: -£1.78
Percentage: 93.66

Looks good?
 
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