I'm sick of emailin 20+ members so here it is......MATCHED BETTING by anksta

[anksta]

Play the 100 hands to wager your hundred to get the quidco bonus. Then play another 450 hands to get the £50 bonus from VC.

Then leave

Thats what I did, took me 3 hours and came out with nothin.


Remember there is no guarantee with casinos

 

[anksta]

I'm still having problems with using Quidco. Whenever I go to one of the sites linked via quidco, it just dumps me on the home page. I can't see how this works for getting any kind of referral bonus.

it should be the homepage but have a different url with some sort of unique reference in it.

If you joined quidco and registered your PayPal etc. it should track it within a few days.

 

[anksta]

So what casinos are people using?

I've used the few i said the few posts up, cant find any with a reasonable wager limit, some are as high as 8k!!!

a lot of very high WR, if your playin one pound hands thats gonna take you ages.

For other people who have entered quidco and betfair referral codes and are wondering where their bonuses are then please remember that terms and conditions have to bet and the tracking time this requires. On quidco it can take upto a month for some but I'm 90% sure BF and BetFred are 4 day maximums.

As for Betfair referral code bonus, bonuses are added when the person who has joined wagers £50.

So bit of patience guys and they'll come, promise.

 

[anksta]

Quick question, if I registed on VC BET first by mistake does this affect the VC CASINO offer? Also do I have to wager exactly £500 before I submit or can it go 1-2 over (got timed out and game started back i seemed to be down so mustve lost a round).

It can do but if you read the terms and conditions you might be alright.

 

[anksta]

Id just like to thank the OP for bringing this to our attention.

I've just placed my free bet at betfred, I was browsing for odds and found a brazilian football match with bet odds of 7.0 and lay odds of 6.4, stupidly I used the £50 free bet on it... Whereas I have a feeling that if i'd used my own money I'd have made more cash due to the whole SNR crap. but anyway, its a high yield for lowish liability I guess so a decent bet. I was a bit confused by the "betting calculator", I think the liability box is wrong. I calculate the actual liability at betfair, and what you NEED TO HAVE IN YOUR ACCOUNT, as what the fundmydegree "betting calculator" has in one of the lower boxes for liability.

Can anyone confirm that the above is correct?

Your welcome


As for your bets, odds of 7.0 and 6.4 must be a huge liability >250, you need to check that. If you would have used your own money to bet and lay that you wouldnt have made anythin.

Also the bettin calculator isnt wrong, it normally comes out a penny or so out but I've never had it wrong unless I'd put the numbers in wrong. Remember when you put how much you are layin into betfair and the number next to it says your liability, the bet calculator adds both those numbers together, i.e. stake + liability.

Try adding them up and see how near the calculator hsa got.

Hope this helped.

 

[anksta]

Yes it is a big liability, but it gives a high percent yield and is just as "risk free" as all other bets people have mentioned. Surely if I had done it with my own money, if the bookies won I would have won £350 and paid out £270? If the exchange won I would have won £50 and would have paid out £50 at the bookies.

No the point is it evens out no matter what, if you're gettin such big difference then I think you've made a mistake somewhere, whatever you win at the bookies you should be payin out the same at the exchange and vice versa

Yep, I agree that if you add your stake and the calculated liability you do get what it shows in the box, but I don't see why it is this figure that you "need to have in your exchange account to cover the bet".

Thanks

You have to have that in your account because thats the amount that comes out, your liability plus whatever you bet.

 

[anksta]

I'm doing all of this betting etc on my credit card,

If i put in £25 into a bookies, and withdraw £100. Can i withdraw this money back into my credit card (bank of scotland one acc i think)

Im unsure if i can take money into a credit card account?

pretty sure you can but if you check each bookies t&cs they should clear it up for you. AFAIK though there is no problem but there might be a small charge.

 

[anksta]

Yes you should be able to put money back onto a ccard.

If anyone finds a good SNR FREEBET - please post it here as I have $50 sitting and cant find anything above 60% at the moment except for the U-19 Portugal match @ 87% but would have to lay and have cover for $380 or something.
Cheers

depends what bookie your on though mate, each one can be miles away from another one.

However, try this site : http://www.valuechecker.co.uk

Found that yesterday, not sure yet how much good it can do but I cant see it doin any harm.

 

[anksta]

cheers will check that out now.
The $50 freebet is with VCBet - seems most bookies are roughly the same though. Its just finding the right event -

$50? Jipped yourself out of 25 quid there, if you register VCBet.co.uk the bonus is £50.


I think a lot of people are jumpin into bookies a bit quick, always read the terms and conditions and always check that your getting the maximum bonus.

A lot of bookies say upto a certain price and in what currencies, dont play in dolla$ if you can play in £ as its nearly always gonna be more.

 

[anksta]

Signed up to VC Casino via Quico account - how long before the cashback shows up in the account?

Playing through my hands jsut now at blackjack.

you should be able to find it on the quidco page, it has a typical trackin and verifyin time next to every referral.

 

[anksta]

US laptop buddy and have not got the pound sign figured yet (or know the shortcut) so always just say $ instead of writing pounds
Yes I have 50 pounds free bet waiting

fair enough then mate, just makin sure you weren't missin out on more profit.

Also, you can go through control panel and change keyboard language to UK and then the upper case 3 should be £.

 

[anksta]

Ok seems some people are havin a few problems, looks like the second string of people to read this thread are thinkin about havin a go now, I'll try and go through each problem again.

Just to clarify, what I'm looking for is a soccer game that is just over odds of 2 for either team to win and being as close as possible. I lay a bet on Betfair for a team to win, and I back/bet for the other team to win on Betfred. And if its a draw I get half from both sites.

Tray and aim for odds much higher than 2 for a start anythin above 3 is better, if you can't find any then so be it but if you can, try and aim for bets with less chance of you winning your bet at the bookie as this will make it easier for future bets.

The bet you are laying at betfair is a bet that any specific outcome wont happen, i.e. anythin but. So if you are layin United you are betting that whatever happens, they wont win (in reality you are just letting someone else bet you that they will win but this is a better way of explainin it).

I dont know where you got the "get half from both sides" but its more important you don't think like that because any misunderstanding can lead to losing money, which we wouldnt want.

Say if you bet and lay United to win, if they win then you'll collect at the bookies and pay out the liability at betfair. If they lose or draw then you will lose your stake at the bookie and receive whatever you laid at Betfair.

last post on my weird calculations, but I found this which I think backs me up : From the FUNDMYDEGREE.com site.:

Arbitrage bets are very very rare, and even more rarer at the kind of percentage you were talkin about. They normally yieled less than 110% so although they are extremely good bets, its not likely that they are gonna bump your profit more than a couple of quid. Good on you if it is right and well done, thats just lucky but its worth checking and double checking and triple checking you have the numbers right as gettin them the wrong way round might lead to disaster.

I still don't quite get the whole thing if Im honest. Every example I read I get lost in at some stage during it. The long example posted a page or so back I kind of got, then you tried to post to many things into one step and got me confused.

If its just a couple of bits you arent gettin then post them on here and I'll try and iron out the specifics. If its the total concept you're stuck on and can't get your head round why profit is possible at all then add me on msn and we can go through it bit my bit.

Since I can't seem to find it on the Coral T&C - Is the Stake returned on coral or not?

If you are playing with the bog standard £10 sign up bonus offer then it is SR, whenever it doesn't say in the t&cs "stake is not included in payout" or similar then normally you can assume this to be SR.

However, and this is a big however, if you are using the signup offer that I was not aware of until someone posted it entitling you to a £50 bonus then I would go through the t&cs and possibly email them to clarify as I doubt it will be SR with it being such a big bonus.


Phew, hope that helped everyone, I go out for a few hours.....

 

[anksta]

Smokes you seem to have done a fair few by now can I ask you some questions?

How can you sustain this as a job? Fair enough you could support yourself but unless you run monthlie casinos through you would eventually run out of bookies. I know there are plenty to work through for quite a while but at some point they must run out?


Also, have you got a runnin total on how much your upto?

 

[anksta]

Anksta, although I do go for bonuses, I actually arb for a living, bonuses are just, well, a nice bonus I bet in in volume and seriously large stakes so when my selections win I make a fair bit. I placed just over 1600 bets in May to give you an idea. I currently have just over £15k exposure on The Open Championship alone, and this will increase over the next 4 days.

As for the money that I make, well I ain't gonna lie to you, its a fair whack and thats the reason I gave up my job to do this full time (I would never in my lifetime earn as much from IT) but I'm not going to disclose figures on here. It is however a 24/7 job for me and very hard work at times, and also frustrating.

My knowledge only stretches as far as match bettin football on bookies, I don't get how you can arb permanently, are you finding arb bets and then matching them? If the arb wins then you're in profit, if it loses then its matched?

 

[anksta]

Yep, I underlay so only cover the bet stake and comission at betfair so if the bets loses I get my stake back. eg if i bet £200 on a 7/6.6 arb, I lay £204, if it wins I make £57.60, if it loses I make nothing. Just repeat several times a day

thats a very VERY smart little ploy you have goin there, I might have to give that a go when I have a little more capital, you use that site you posted to find decent arbs?

Edit: also, whats the difference between laying and underlaying?

2nd Edit: How are you calculatin how much to lay there? If you put that in the bet calculator it comes up with a £3 gain and that definitely isnt worth the £1000+ liability

 

[anksta]

For my first qualifying bet I'm going to lay £50 against Tobol Kostanay through Betfair and £50 for Tobol Kostanay through Betfred (Intertoto Cup- Tobol Kostanay vs OFI Crete). Both have odds of 3.5 so seems good bet.

One thing why can I change the backers odds in Betfair? I'm confused, someone help me out.

You can change the odds at betfair because essentially you are becoming the bookie therefore you can allow someone to bet you at whatever odds you want.

However, you need the bet to be matched so if you change the odds there is no guarantee anyone will take that bet, so the chances it wont get matched and therefore your bets wont be covered.

 

[anksta]

So in this case using the spreadsheet saved me 86 pence? So for simplicity you could just not use the spreadsheet, and still make profit but your loss would be slightly greater? I just don't get how that works. can't get my head round it. How does the spreadsheet tell you how much to LAY? Should I even care?

this is a method that relies on a bit of maths (that and bookies ) so its worth checkin it with a calculator, it isn't like its a lot of effort to do so you might as well.

 

[anksta]

anybody wanna post their runnin total again?

I'm on £734 now

 

[anksta]

well played mate, I'm on a measely £100 or something, but have only done 2 bookies.

out of interest, how much of your £700 was from the refer and earn?

the quidco referrals aren't counted and I have only made 40 quid from the betfair referral code, either a lot of people didnt enter it or its not validated or somethin yet.

I dont mind though 40 quid is definitely worth it.

 

[anksta]

the one downside is...

bookies take your money no questions.... getting it out is a week long job

ive £300 waiting to be withdrawn right now, nearly 1/3 is profit

if you use moneybookes then its instant transfer to betfair and things so much easier to change money around, think its a lot quicker goin to the account as well.

Some bookies don't qualify you for the free bet so you can't use it for all of them.