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Image quality Plus speed is reason enough to go 8800.
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Just thought i would add my comment..
I am a student living on loans etc (working part time) and im thinking about buying one of these cards by selling one of my 2407wfps and my x1900xt.
The reasons i am considering this are these:
I play FEAR at 1920x1200 with MAX settings on my current setup and i get 24ish FPS and is Unplayable.
FACT ia an 8800GTX will give me a playable framerate at those settings.
You may ask why i dont drop some of my settings.. if you have played a game such as FEAR you will realise it is much better playing with high settings..
so to sum up. if you have the money to spend.. and you will see an increase in game playability then buy one..
i like most people who have bought one, wont be buying it for DX10.. It IS the fastest card out at the moment and can be had for £400.
I am a student living on loans etc (working part time) and im thinking about buying one of these cards by selling one of my 2407wfps and my x1900xt.
The reasons i am considering this are these:
I play FEAR at 1920x1200 with MAX settings on my current setup and i get 24ish FPS and is Unplayable.
FACT ia an 8800GTX will give me a playable framerate at those settings.
You may ask why i dont drop some of my settings.. if you have played a game such as FEAR you will realise it is much better playing with high settings..
- i used to play FEAR with LOW everything at LOW res and i upgraded to x1800xt and my enjoyment in the game was grately increased with the game looking much better
- going from my x1900xt to 8800gtx will make my game playable at the settings i want to use as it looks awesome.
so to sum up. if you have the money to spend.. and you will see an increase in game playability then buy one..
i like most people who have bought one, wont be buying it for DX10.. It IS the fastest card out at the moment and can be had for £400.
I don't mind people buying G80's on release as it's their money they're wasting not mine... hell the people who have bought SLI I find even more amusing for the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
I can afford one but luckily sense prevails and i'll wait till R600 is released and the prices come down before I go towards DX10. Unless you run a 24"+ LCD then I can't really see any reason to purchase one before DX10 arrives.
I don't know how people can sit there with a straight face and say "G80 is worth it at this moment in time" as it's just a ludicrous statement... as like any bleeding edge part it's a purely superficial purchase that makes you feel good inside because as PC users we are always looking for the next best thing and we've fooled ourselves into being able to justify spending silly amounts of money on these things by looking at worthless benchmarks and notching up a couple of graphics settings and saying "hey, that's totally worth the money".
A PC enthusiasts worst enemy is feeling jaded... and the longer you've been in the game the quicker that feeling comes each time you buy a new component, until the point where you either start being sensible (me), or continue looking for your next "fix" spending increasngly silly amounts of cash along the way (easyrider etc).
But when all's said and done I wish anyone who buys them well, it's your money so spend it how you like, enjoy your purchase.
I can afford one but luckily sense prevails and i'll wait till R600 is released and the prices come down before I go towards DX10. Unless you run a 24"+ LCD then I can't really see any reason to purchase one before DX10 arrives.
I don't know how people can sit there with a straight face and say "G80 is worth it at this moment in time" as it's just a ludicrous statement... as like any bleeding edge part it's a purely superficial purchase that makes you feel good inside because as PC users we are always looking for the next best thing and we've fooled ourselves into being able to justify spending silly amounts of money on these things by looking at worthless benchmarks and notching up a couple of graphics settings and saying "hey, that's totally worth the money".
A PC enthusiasts worst enemy is feeling jaded... and the longer you've been in the game the quicker that feeling comes each time you buy a new component, until the point where you either start being sensible (me), or continue looking for your next "fix" spending increasngly silly amounts of cash along the way (easyrider etc).
But when all's said and done I wish anyone who buys them well, it's your money so spend it how you like, enjoy your purchase.
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Just had a very funny 30 mins or so flick reading this thread. Why are ppl so up in arms about the cost of this card if you hunt around it can be had for £400 that would be about the price of 7800GTX, 7900GTX & ATIX1900XTX when they were first released wouldn't it. 
Personally I would love to replace my slightly ancient 6800GT with one.
Anyway thanks to all of you for this entertaining thread the ATI vs Nvidia thing is so funny.
Try purchasing workstation or specialist SDI cards then you will see just how expensive GFX boards can be.
Personally I would love to replace my slightly ancient 6800GT with one.
Anyway thanks to all of you for this entertaining thread the ATI vs Nvidia thing is so funny.
Try purchasing workstation or specialist SDI cards then you will see just how expensive GFX boards can be.
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Iv'e only been back here for a while but i must say after reading some of the posts i thought i was in the wrong place.
When did it start that ppl are concerned about how much somthing cost,who cares it's not about that. speed == wonga simple.
last time i was here many years back i dont remember any probs with what each other had.
Good luck to all 8800 owners i say.
strange times.
When did it start that ppl are concerned about how much somthing cost,who cares it's not about that. speed == wonga simple.
last time i was here many years back i dont remember any probs with what each other had.
Good luck to all 8800 owners i say.
strange times.
the IQ is staggering i must admit, but im with richdog about its good to upgrade when needed, but i use SLI cause i use rather large monitor and am in university doing computer graphics and stuff so i use lots of demanding rendering applications and what not and i found SLI give enormous boost over single card in studio max and others, im gonna wait and see what red camp have to offer before looking at a total upgrade, but looks like G80 has been quite a success so far and yeah, i hope you get brilliant frame/rates and quality with you 8800s, enjoy
Richdog said:
I haven't spent more than £150 upgrading my GFX cards
Since my 9800 pro days.
I had my GX2 just under 3 months.Sold it for £320.Lost 50 quid on it.In other words every month I had that card I lost just under £17.
Sold it the day before 8800 launch.Any later and it would have plummeted in price.
I dont see that has spending silly ammouns of cash.
I would rather spend alittle each gen.Rather than having a card for 1-2 yrs and loosing loads of money on it.
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It almost makes sense when you put it like that 
Richdog said:I don't mind people buying G80's on release as it's their money they're wasting not mine... hell the people who have bought SLI I find even more amusing for the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
I can afford one but luckily sense prevails and i'll wait till R600 is released and the prices come down before I go towards DX10. Unless you run a 24"+ LCD then I can't really see any reason to purchase one before DX10 arrives.
I don't know how people can sit there with a straight face and say "G80 is worth it at this moment in time" as it's just a ludicrous statement... as like any bleeding edge part it's a purely superficial purchase that makes you feel good inside because as PC users we are always looking for the next best thing and we've fooled ourselves into being able to justify spending silly amounts of money on these things by looking at worthless benchmarks and notching up a couple of graphics settings and saying "hey, that's totally worth the money".
A PC enthusiasts worst enemy is feeling jaded... and the longer you've been in the game the quicker that feeling comes each time you buy a new component, until the point where you either start being sensible (me), or continue looking for your next "fix" spending increasngly silly amounts of cash along the way (easyrider etc).
But when all's said and done I wish anyone who buys them well, it's your money so spend it how you like, enjoy your purchase.
If it was like the difference between an E6700 and a E6800 Conroe then there may be a point, but it's not.
Richdog said:
Sense prevails? so you think its a waste of money to get a 8800 series card but you don't think it's a waste to get a R600 series card?
Does FANBOY mean anything to you?
Richdog said:
thats the problem with most of the anti 8800 brigade, they can't SEE any reason to purchase one before DX10, aswell as the magical guesswork that goes into ideas like "Unless you run a 24"+ LCD at xxxxXxxx res" .........
When they don't have a clue what other people want them for, be it maximum details or highest resolution etc...
Have you tried EVERY game at EVERY setting with every combination of components to come up with the conclusion of not needing one unles you have a 24" + LCD?
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I always use the following.
Amount / Months of ownership.
Like ER I always sell my gear before the new tech comes out. It cost me £12.50 a month to keep my X1900XT-X. How much do you lot spend on beer a month?? Sounds a cheap habit to me?
Hell I actually made on my 7800 GTX 512.
Amount / Months of ownership.
Like ER I always sell my gear before the new tech comes out. It cost me £12.50 a month to keep my X1900XT-X. How much do you lot spend on beer a month?? Sounds a cheap habit to me?
Hell I actually made on my 7800 GTX 512.
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m3lv1n said:Just had a very funny 30 mins or so flick reading this thread. Why are ppl so up in arms about the cost of this card if you hunt around it can be had for £400 that would be about the price of 7800GTX, 7900GTX & ATIX1900XTX when they were first released wouldn't it.
Personally I would love to replace my slightly ancient 6800GT with one.
Anyway thanks to all of you for this entertaining thread the ATI vs Nvidia thing is so funny.
Try purchasing workstation or specialist SDI cards then you will see just how expensive GFX boards can be.
I know mate, its like talking to a brick wall the amount of sense you get out of these nutters...
Even if the cards were twice as fast, they'd still be ranting on like old farts...in my day...blah blah...
Then wait till the R600 turns up costing the same price as the 8800GTX, and they won't moan at all...
I said it a week or so ago, these very people who a couple of years ago had some sense in their heads and couldn't stand the "fanboy" have turned into them, albeit ones with walking sticks and droning their gibbering sales pitch over and over and over again.
(they know its true, but will never admit it, too much pride)
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StevenG said:
Not really, you can always turn on 16xAA\16xAF etc, to balance it out if your cpu is pants like mine and i'll be running mine at 1280x1024...until a 24 inch monitor pops up at a nice price at least
i'll buy the fastest setup out at the time.. so i may wait for the r600 then i can keep my 2 dells
but i had been amd since i built my first rig.. and this time went pentium as it was the fastest available.
EDIT: just ran the FEAR test with my x1900xt clocked to xtx
Minimum 10FPS
Average 24FPS
Maximum 40FPS
THIS is why i want a faster card.
e.g. of the IQ
Click for full res.
but i had been amd since i built my first rig.. and this time went pentium as it was the fastest available.
EDIT: just ran the FEAR test with my x1900xt clocked to xtx
Minimum 10FPS
Average 24FPS
Maximum 40FPS
THIS is why i want a faster card.
e.g. of the IQ
Click for full res.
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Don't make senseless comments like this before thinking about what he said. Of course it makes more economical sense to wait for R600. Prices will always drop when there is competition. Right now, there isn't any - if you want a DX10 card ready for Vista you have no choice but to go with the G80 - and so prices will stay high.LEUVEN said:
This thread really made me laugh, especially the 3d mark mock up pic.
Still I'd hate to break off from the crowd so might as well throw myself into the argument anyway.
Image quality and speed is reason enough to buy an 8800 IF a) You have the money to do so and b) you think it's actually worth it.
Personally I wouldn't pay £500 to play a £30 game with everything on max when I could pay £300 less and play said £30 game with everything almost on max, but then being a student I don't have a lot of money, in fact I currently have a lot of negative money. My x1800xt plays the HL2 lost coast level with HDR, AA, AF etc, that's more than enough for me, I couldn't care less about being able to spot every nick or spec of blood on my +1000 sword of ultimate-pwnage in Oblivion, I just want to be able to play UT2007 and have it look fairly nice. At the end of the day even not on max settings it will look better than things like FEAR and still be perfectly playable, some of us just don't need these small and unnecessary jumps. And I mean small in terms of the real world, not in terms of benchmarks which beyond being able to compare your system to a previous one or other people's, are pretty meaningless. At the end of the day the person with the most money will be the one with the highest score.
Oh but the image quality is so much better etc etc... yes but the iq will be so much better in 6 months when the price is much more reasonable, so I'm certainly not going to OMGLOLROFL!!!!11 too much over it right now.
New technology will always have a huge premium price, look how much DVD writers were when they first came out, now they're £18 and much faster. The midrange price point is always going to be the best one to go for if you can since it's a compromise between need and greed, 3200 barton - need, intel quad core - greed. E6300 to 6600, compromise. And on and on and on and on and on...
Still I'd hate to break off from the crowd so might as well throw myself into the argument anyway.
Image quality and speed is reason enough to buy an 8800 IF a) You have the money to do so and b) you think it's actually worth it.
Personally I wouldn't pay £500 to play a £30 game with everything on max when I could pay £300 less and play said £30 game with everything almost on max, but then being a student I don't have a lot of money, in fact I currently have a lot of negative money. My x1800xt plays the HL2 lost coast level with HDR, AA, AF etc, that's more than enough for me, I couldn't care less about being able to spot every nick or spec of blood on my +1000 sword of ultimate-pwnage in Oblivion, I just want to be able to play UT2007 and have it look fairly nice. At the end of the day even not on max settings it will look better than things like FEAR and still be perfectly playable, some of us just don't need these small and unnecessary jumps. And I mean small in terms of the real world, not in terms of benchmarks which beyond being able to compare your system to a previous one or other people's, are pretty meaningless. At the end of the day the person with the most money will be the one with the highest score.
Oh but the image quality is so much better etc etc... yes but the iq will be so much better in 6 months when the price is much more reasonable, so I'm certainly not going to OMGLOLROFL!!!!11 too much over it right now.
New technology will always have a huge premium price, look how much DVD writers were when they first came out, now they're £18 and much faster. The midrange price point is always going to be the best one to go for if you can since it's a compromise between need and greed, 3200 barton - need, intel quad core - greed. E6300 to 6600, compromise. And on and on and on and on and on...
I think TFT monitor with their native res have a part to play in the upgrade department, if I had the 24inch dell I reckon I'd be forced to either upgrade to a G80 which as we have seen handles high resolutions admirably, or sell the dell as I can't game at less than 40fps for obvious reasons. As it pans out I'm one of the only CRT lovers left which bodes well for res switching when my fps drops below acceptable levels.
Yes I like to jizz over 1600x1200 but I'm also enthralled by 1280x960.
Yes I like to jizz over 1600x1200 but I'm also enthralled by 1280x960.