Image quality Plus speed is reason enough to go 8800.

[WatchTower]

I couldn't aford an 8800 if I could aford to I might of thought about it. I'm not complaing though I got something I could aford and thought it was outstanding value for money. The OcUK MSI GeForce 7900 GTO SILENT 512MB GDDR3 that was on this week only for £170.32. This card can run everything realy well its just less fps but considering it's £400 less than a high end 8800 card I think it was a winning choice. I think every gamer that isn't ultra rich should get one.

 

[james.miller]

I've kept away from this thread and its predicable nature, but i do have a few thoughts in the issue.

First off, its that predictability thing. When they first announced the g80 i could have told you then what was going to happen on enthusiast forums when it was released, the 'jealousy' or whatever you want to call it is predictable as the sunrise. you get your 'hmm, that's too much for a graphics card' group, who genuinely don't care what you spend but wouldn't spend that money themselves. Then you have the (somewhat ignored this point) minority of people who are actually jealous for dropping 500 quid on a graphics card. read posts carefully - not half of them are down to jealously. right now i could drop 1k on two g80's and not batter an eyelid but i haven't.....and i wont. I don't think they are worth it. Now tell me, am i jealous of you? If im not, i wonder how many other's you would accuse of being jealous solely because they don't agree with your opinions. Something to think about.

Personally, i don't like elitest attitudes. Such as that such by easyrider in this very thread.

Well just to put the record staright.Unless you have experienced gaming with one and have had the pleasure of the IQ and speed over GX2 costing only 120 less.Then I suggest you stop moaning and groaning saying its pointless and futile.And my games run fine enough already etc...

That's awful to be honest. You can't say things like that without EXPECTING a backlash. Everybody is entitled to opinion regardless of what the elitists would have you believe. So people don't have g80's...big deal. We know the performance, and we know the image quality - we know enough to make a somewhat informed decision on the cards worth to us personally. It's very easy to decide on the worth of a graphics card. I've a good mind to start a thread entitled "elitists - who the hell do you think you are?"

As i've said before, you dont go buying the best card out there that *happens* to have dx10 on-board and yet not give a damn about dx10. Thats trash. like most people, i think wisely about spending money. I was bought up well in that respect. If, 1 year from now, budget cards are slapping the g80 silly in dx 10, everybody with g80's will sell up, i guarantee it. so then what's the excuse for spending 500 quid? "oh well it WAS the faster, for nearly a year. then i sold it, at a loss, and bought a cheaper card". Now that's quite a lot of speculation there but i'll be damned if people wouldn't do that if the situation arose. I can't personally call the card value for money....at all. it could well be 5 times faster than it is now, but i still wouldn't spend the money on it. Again, does that make me jealous, or are you tarring too many people with the same brush? i bet half the people here couldn't give a stuff what you spend your money on. I also bet half the people here are far more choosy with their money. That doesnt make them right and you wrong, its just a difference of opinion which you have shown absolutely no understanding of.

I wont be buying a £500 graphics card. no way no how, not unless i could afford to light Cubans with £50 notes. VFM rules the way for me. However, i *may* concider a GTS when the price drops. Again, I accept people buy expensive cards for different reasons - makes no odds to me. how about you?

 

[Sir Random]

It's 2006, and £500 isn't really a lot of money to spend on a hobby.
I'm getting an 8800GTX, and I may even upgrade again before I get Vista, so I'm not getting it for DX10. I want the huge bump in performance and IQ now, so I can play games like NWN2 in all their glory.

 

[james.miller]

it is for people who cant spend that sort of money at the drop of a hat. there's a lot of narrow-mindedness in this thread!

 

[Arc]

Looking at the architecture of the 8800 I have to say, yes, I am impressed. Nvidia has finally created something that is simply more than a GPU. Unfortunately, like all good first revision hardware, its got a lot of draw backs, e.g. massive physical size, high power consumption etc.

This is not to say its not an achievement but the real benefits will come with the next revision when the cards are shrunk, the power consumption reduces and the retail price goes to realistic levels, oh and we get the games to exploit them to their full potential.

In the end I'll be looking at building a completely new machine for some 8800 SLI action due to the need for two x16 PCIe lanes, my current mb only has two x8 lanes. Simply for cost purposes I'll wait for the 2nd set of cards, quad core and a little thing called Vista.

it is for people who cant spend that sort of money at the drop of a hat. there's a lot of narrow-mindedness in this thread!

Someone sounds as if he is living in the real world, a rare thing in these kind of threads and forums of this nature in general .

 

[JonD]

fps from 90to130 at insane resolutions with 16xAA, 16xAF and incredible image quality (beats anything and everything on the market currently) and to make it taste even sweeter it also has DX10 support ready in time for Jan'07 how awesome is that..

I'll tell you how AWESOME that is....

ITS £500 WORTH OF AWESOME!!

To put it in even simpler terms if the GX2 is like a 3 hour session with your girlfriend/boyfriend/whatever in bed, then the 8800GTX is like 24 hours with the entire girls aloud band and several gallons of lube

You need to get out more!

 

[james.miller]

Someone sounds as if he is living in the real world, a rare thing in these kind of threads and forums of this nature in general .

well, everything i've been through these last few years has taught me a thing or two about life. I'm sensible with money because i've had to be and tbh well, i have better things to spend £500 on Thank you by the way lol

 

[Besty]

Hmm, all interesting points.

I wonder how many of us PC enthusiasts will be spending hundreds (if not thousands) on our rigs before Christmas just to have it blown away by more junior members of our family giving us a Boxing day demonstation of a little known game called "gears of war" on his liccle xbox.

 

[mpy32]

Hmm, all interesting points.

I wonder how many of us PC enthusiasts will be spending hundreds (if not thousands) on our rigs before Christmas just to have it blown away by more junior members of our family giving us a Boxing day demonstation of a little known game called "gears of war" on his liccle xbox.

exactly in years gone by may of bought 1 maybe 2 of these cards but where are this years xmas killer games ????

 

[BubbySoup]

exactly in years gone by may of bought 1 maybe 2 of these cards but where are this years xmas killer games ????

They are wrapped up in DX10, delayed somewhat, and will be running on faster cards than the 8800 when they arrive

 

[easyrider]

I've kept away from this thread and its predicable nature, but i do have a few thoughts in the issue.



First off, its that predictability thing. When they first announced the g80 i could have told you then what was going to happen on enthusiast forums when it was released, the 'jealousy' or whatever you want to call it is predictable as the sunrise. you get your 'hmm, that's too much for a graphics card' group, who genuinely don't care what you spend but wouldn't spend that money themselves. Then you have the (somewhat ignored this point) minority of people who are actually jealous for dropping 500 quid on a graphics card. read posts carefully - not half of them are down to jealously. right now i could drop 1k on two g80's and not batter an eyelid but i haven't.....and i wont. I don't think they are worth it. Now tell me, am i jealous of you? If im not, i wonder how many other's you would accuse of being jealous solely because they don't agree with your opinions. Something to think about.

So you dont think the cards are worth it?
Thats fine.I do.

Is there any real point in saying I'm mad etc.. for buying a gfx card?

Personally, i don't like elitest attitudes. Such as that such by easyrider in this very thread.

That's awful to be honest. You can't say things like that without EXPECTING a backlash. Everybody is entitled to opinion regardless of what the elitists would have you believe. So people don't have g80's...big deal. We know the performance, and we know the image quality - we know enough to make a somewhat informed decision on the cards worth to us personally. It's very easy to decide on the worth of a graphics card. I've a good mind to start a thread entitled "elitists - who the hell do you think you are?"

Its the same for people saying getting a G80 is maddness.

I've a good mind to start a thread entitled " -Mainstream users who the hell do you think you are?"

As i've said before, you dont go buying the best card out there that *happens* to have dx10 on-board and yet not give a damn about dx10. Thats trash.

Why?

I never bought the GTx for DX 10.I can't use it now.I upgraded my GFX card that it.

like most people, i think wisely about spending money. I was bought up well in that respect. If, 1 year from now, budget cards are slapping the g80 silly in dx 10, everybody with g80's will sell up, i guarantee it. so then what's the excuse for spending 500 quid? "oh well it WAS the faster, for nearly a year. then i sold it, at a loss, and bought a cheaper card". Now that's quite a lot of speculation there but i'll be damned if people wouldn't do that if the situation arose. I can't personally call the card value for money....at all. it could well be 5 times faster than it is now, but i still wouldn't spend the money on it. Again, does that make me jealous, or are you tarring too many people with the same brush? i bet half the people here couldn't give a stuff what you spend your money on. I also bet half the people here are far more choosy with their money. That doesnt make them right and you wrong, its just a difference of opinion which you have shown absolutely no understanding of.

like most people, i think wisely about spending money.Thats why I bought a G80.

I sold my GX2 why I could still get 300+ for it.I wanted more speed.But I couldn't bring myself to buy two x1950 in xfire costing 600+

I bought the G80.It was a faster cheaper option.

I wont be buying a £500 graphics card. no way no how, not unless i could afford to light Cubans with £50 notes. VFM rules the way for me. However, i *may* concider a GTS when the price drops. Again, I accept people buy expensive cards for different reasons - makes no odds to me. how about you?

It makes no odds to me what GFX cards people have.What gets me is when people seem to care what GFX card I have or others have.

 

[silversurfer]

If people did not buy well developed but expensive new technology like this, the advance of technology would slow from its present doubling of power every two years. That would be bad news for everyone at all levels of spending

 

[Smudge]

I upgraded from a x1900xt to a 8800gtx & allthough I do play a lot of different games I mainly play WoW in a raiding guild. I play at 1600x1200 on a 20.1 inch tft, so the old card would get me a decent framerate, even with 40 players on the screen, all doing their thing.

What I have now is a solid 60fps (vsync on), with 16q af, 16qaa, 16q transparant thing that makes the grass and tree's look good, no LOD on, full spell fx, full weather fx, I cant possibly set anything higher. The image quality and vibrant colours make my gaming experience totally different to the ATI card. It's like i'm playing an upgraded game, the pure experience of playing the same game with a new video card its outstanding.

This is now, I got the card delivered the day after they went on sale from OCUK, so im benefiting from this card now and every day from now. The 8800 has changed my gaming experience and I guess it will only get better, until I upgrade again to the latest and greatest.

Now, if you read my post you'll notice its viod of all e-peen, void of all price comparisons, but what it does illustrate is i'm over the moon with this card, its fantastic.

My 3dmark scrores arnt massive, to be honest I ran it once after i'd beefed up the display settings for wow & scored 10300, thats on a core2-6600 at 3.2, all my background crap running, I think I was in an msn chat when I had it going. I will have a stab at overclocking it some day, if I get time, I guess, just for personal satisfaction, but I game a lot and I got this card to enhance my gaming, which it does, hands down!

 

[james.miller]

So you dont think the cards are worth it?
Thats fine.I do.
* Is there any real point in saying I'm mad etc.. for buying a gfx card?
* Its the same for people saying getting a G80 is maddness.
* I've a good mind to start a thread entitled " -Mainstream users who the hell do you think you are?"
* I never bought the GTx for DX 10.I can't use it now.I upgraded my GFX card that it.
* like most people, i think wisely about spending money.Thats why I bought a G80.

see that is what im talking about easyrider. instead of having a conversation about this, you have to directly mimic the wording in my post and change a few words here and there to suit your needs. It's that 'and what, and what, so what" attitude that i really dislike. That, and the fact that you'd sooner tell people to go and do one rather than form your own sentences.

a couple of points:

* i never said you were mad. hell i even explicitly pointed out that i fully know why people buy top end cards, yet you totally ignored that point.
* How is it the same for 'people saying the g80 is madness'? 'you dont have one so you cant comment' is snobbery. people saying 'thats too much to spend on a card, id rather spend it on XX isn't. If they are attacking you personally then fine, but how often is that actually happening? If you want a comparable opinion, how about "you have more money than sense, so dont try and tell me what i should be spending money on"
* "I've a good mind to start a thread entitled " -Mainstream users who the hell do you think you are?"
for what posibly reason would you do that? to tell them they aren't entitled to their own opinions? As you've already done that, easyrider, i cant see what else you have to try to prove?

IQ + S = 8800gtx so long as X<B where X is the price of the card and B is your expendable budget. simple and yes you'd be quite right in assuming that B is an infinitely variable number. As El razur likes to say, think outside the box. or in this case, further than your own nose.

 

[Sweetloaf]

What gets me is when people seem to care what GFX card I have or others have.

Trust me, very few people really care what kind of graphics card you have. A few people just want to point out that £500 is a lot of money to some people, obviously not you, and that's great but please don't assume that everyone who won't spend £500 on a card and claim it's value for money is jealous. Do you think that the card is good value for money?

Out of interest easyrider, what do you do for a living? are you married? do you have kids or other responsibilities?

 

[easyrider]

see that is what im talking about easyrider. instead of having a conversation about this, you have to directly mimic the wording in my post and change a few words here and there to suit your needs. It's that 'and what, and what, so what" attitude that i really dislike. That, and the fact that you'd sooner tell people to go and do one rather than form your own sentences.

You stated that people who buy G80 have bought it for DX 10.
You claimed it was trash anyone saying they did not buy it for DX 10.

I stated I bought it as an upgrade and as alternative to Xfire.

a couple of points:

* i never said you were mad. hell i even explicitly pointed out that i fully know why people buy top end cards, yet you totally ignored that point.
* How is it the same for 'people saying the g80 is madness'? 'you dont have one so you cant comment' is snobbery. people saying 'thats too much to spend on a card, id rather spend it on XX isn't. If they are attacking you personally then fine, but how often is that actually happening? If you want a comparable opinion, how about "you have more money than sense, so dont try and tell me what i should be spending money on"
* "I've a good mind to start a thread entitled " -Mainstream users who the hell do you think you are?"
for what posibly reason would you do that? to tell them they aren't entitled to their own opinions? As you've already done that, easyrider, i cant see what else you have to try to prove?

You then say in another thread that you have better things to spend £500 on.Thats fine.

I choose to upgrade my gfx card thats it.I comment on first hand experience.
I don't automatically call a gfx card a waste of money a rip off etc.. a crap pointless upgrade path just because I can't afford one.

Because there is no reason why someone would not want a G80.
When it comes down to it.

 

[james.miller]

I don't automatically call a gfx card a waste of money a rip off etc.. a crap pointless upgrade path just because I can't afford one.

Because there is no reason why someone would not want a G80.
When it comes down to it.

that says it all about you easyrider. let me remind you of one thing before i leave this thread:

right now i could drop 1k on two g80's and not batter an eyelid but i haven't.....and i wont. I don't think they are worth it. Now tell me, am i jealous of you? If im not, i wonder how many other's you would accuse of being jealous solely because they don't agree with your opinions. Something to think about.

i'll stick with what i've got, thanks. ta ta.

 

[Sweetloaf]

Because there is no reason why someone would not want a G80.
When it comes down to it.

True enough but there are many reasons why people will not spend £500 on one even if they have the funds available.

 

[easyrider]

Trust me, very few people really care what kind of graphics card you have. A few people just want to point out that £500 is a lot of money to some people, obviously not you, and that's great but please don't assume that everyone who won't spend £500 on a card and claim it's value for money is jealous. Do you think that the card is good value for money?

Considering its around £100 cheaper than two x1950's in xfire and yet offers faster performance.I would say yes.

Is a 6800 Extreme edition conroe costing £700?
No.A 6600 can be overclocked to offer the same speeds.

I have responsibilites and a family yes.Whats that got to do with anything?

£500 is a lot of money to all people.Its just that some just dont go on about the fact.

Its not like its the first time GFX cards on release cost this.

Look at the 7800 GTX,7900 GTX

they were all £499 on release day.

 

[easyrider]

True enough but there are many reasons why people will not spend £500 on one even if they have the funds available.

Very true,

But do they have to go on about it!