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In-Game Temp Monitor?

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Hello,

I recently put together a new rig with a X1900XT (Connect3D ATI Radeon X1900 XT-X 512MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (3055) (GX-046-CO)) and my problems can be found in this thread: Here

It seems to be that the Graphics card is getting too hot and the system is shutting down because of the heat.

With Call of Duty 2 on more or less full settings, the card was hitting about 84oC after 5-10 minutes game play, on Battlefield 2 with more or less full settings again, the card didn't even get past the 20 second mark.

I have a few questions relating to the card - so if anyone could help me out it would be a good job.

- Is there any software available that gives an in-game reading of the GPU temperature? I hate having to press the Windows key in game, because the temp. drops from anything around 10oC to 20oC and I can't really get an accurate reading.

Furthermore, I can't record the temp. when the system shuts down, for obvious reasons.

- I'm running stock cooling on the card, would an aftermarket cooler really help matters?

- If so, which would you suggest?

I think that's about it - I understand that I may just be asking too much of the card on such high settings, but I thought it would be able to handle them no problem.
 
Had a play about - found a very useful facility in the ATI Tray tool and changed the fan speeds - loud but it should be effective.

Fan speeds were set to run 100% at 100oC - pretty late for that.

I suppose the question continues with aftercoolers - any way to run it cooler and quietier?
 
Look at the general layout of your case internals. Is there anything that will blow fresh, cool air over that graphics card? And then think about where does the hot air go? :cool:
 
MAllen said:
Look at the general layout of your case internals. Is there anything that will blow fresh, cool air over that graphics card? And then think about where does the hot air go? :cool:
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The hot air goes out the back. :cool:

I think for air to go into the card, it would have to be positioned below the hard drives (bottom front) and angled (45o) towards the graphics card - where the intake of the card is.

Surely a fan right below the graphics card would do little good - as it would just move around the horrible plasticness?
 
AS above sort the air flow in your case out, i play BF2 & CSS all day long @ 1920 x 1200 highest detail & full af/aa my overclocked xt never really goes higher than 70c
 
Snoops said:
AS above sort the air flow in your case out, i play BF2 & CSS all day long @ 1920 x 1200 highest detail & full af/aa my overclocked xt never really goes higher than 70c
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What speed are your fans turning?
 
wush said:
If it's overheating to the point of crashing then surely it is faulty. RMA?
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Considering it - Although it's something that can be complicated. Obviously if full graphics on COD2 is pushing it a bit far - then it will overheat.

The ATI drivers/settings didn't help matters - it was set to run at 50% fan speed around 80-90oC and it was only required to do 100% when it hit 100oC - which is obviously too late. As I assume the card has a 90oC knock off point.

On 100% fan speed, BF:2 runs fine. I've configured the fan speeds according to the temps of the graphics card and things seem to be going alright - bar the odd niggly issue, like the COD2 screen above.
 
doesnt matter what gfx settings you use it shouldnt shut down. if it cant cope it should slow down etc not crash.

sounds like the cooler isnt fitted right or something is wrong with your system.
 
helpimcrap said:
doesnt matter what gfx settings you use it shouldnt shut down. if it cant cope it should slow down etc not crash.

sounds like the cooler isnt fitted right or something is wrong with your system.
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Admittedly it is a first time build - but everything is running fine. It just seems that when it comes to games, there's a load of niggly issues. Whether that's down solely to the graphics card or not, I don't know, but surely if something else was massively wrong - I would notice it elsewhere.

Alternatively, if BF:2 runs fine on 100% GPU fan speed, then it must be down to the graphics card.

COD2 (with the new fan speed settings) was running fine until I got that message about entities.

Would 3dMark06 bring me any closer to finding a solution?
 
3d Mark 06 is a good stress test for the card.
It does appear it may be the card heating up from what you say.
If youre of a mind to you could remove the stock cooelr to see that it has been seated correctly & reapply some new thermal paste.
It may be an idea to try it in another pc if you can.
Also try progs like memtest, superPI, etc to test your ram / CPU & ensure the oher components in the pc are fine.
 
Cheers for the advice, ACESHIGH.

Ran SuperPi and it calculated 1m in 21 seconds - hardly lightening but around what I was expecting.

And then I got onto MemTest - this is where things may have pointed in the direction of what is wrong - 40% complete - 1032 errors. And that's only on one 1024 stick.

Then, in true fashion, the computer re-started like it has done through many games.

I would laugh at the number of errors, but quite frankly I'm embarrassed.

How do you go about fixing RAM? :confused: - replacing it? reseating it?

The system detects that it has 2x1GB of RAM, but obviously I know this doesn't instantly cure things.

I will run 3dMark06 - but if the RAM is dodgy then is there any real point?

Important Spec is as follows:

E6600 Conroe (2.4Ghz)
G.Skill 2GB DDR2 HZ PC2-6400 (2x1GB) CAS4 Dual Channel Kit
Gigabyte DS4 Mobo
Connect3d X1900XT 512MB
 
Improving the cooling for the graphics card is easy:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Arctic_Cooling_System_Coolers.html

But it sounds like you need some new RAM for Xmas. If the RAM is failing in memtst, then it will also fail in game, and this is the crash you are seeing.

RAM is not repairable, though sometimes it is caused by a dodgy slot. Test it in another PC if possible before discarding it.
 
MAllen said:
Improving the cooling for the graphics card is easy:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Arctic_Cooling_System_Coolers.html

But it sounds like you need some new RAM for Xmas. If the RAM is failing in memtst, then it will also fail in game, and this is the crash you are seeing.

RAM is not repairable, though sometimes it is caused by a dodgy slot. Test it in another PC if possible before discarding it.
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Thing is, the RAM is brand new.

I'll see what I can do - but it'll be going back if things don't improve.
 
If it is brand new RAM, then I would try and check it in a mates PC and then send it back. You should not be seeing any errors with memtst. Sometimes bad RAM slips through the net. OR you may just have RAM that is incompatible/fussy with your motherboard.

(I assume that you are not overclocking while doing this test?)
 
what is an average temp of a graphics card while playing games? does it depend on how high you have the settings set? i have an x1300 radeon and dont game much i dont no how to overclock i just changed the fan speed to avoid over heating whats the best way to overclock? i only play pro evo online but wanna get the full graphic effects of it. any advice?

cheers

Liam
 
supergallas said:
what is an average temp of a graphics card while playing games? does it depend on how high you have the settings set? i have an x1300 radeon and dont game much i dont no how to overclock i just changed the fan speed to avoid over heating whats the best way to overclock? i only play pro evo online but wanna get the full graphic effects of it. any advice?

cheers

Liam
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Don't hijack someone else's thread. Read the forum first, and then come back and post a new thread. :)
 
MAllen said:
If it is brand new RAM, then I would try and check it in a mates PC and then send it back. You should not be seeing any errors with memtst. Sometimes bad RAM slips through the net. OR you may just have RAM that is incompatible/fussy with your motherboard.

(I assume that you are not overclocking while doing this test?)
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I'm not overclocking, no.

I switched the slots over and recorded a new world record of 2167 errors over 100.4% coverage.

I'll ask my mate if I can test it out on his - probably a stupid question, but is RAM meant to run through MemTest without any errors at all?
 
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