In Mensa!

I've always wondered how intelligent the people who devise the IQ tests are. Mainly because if you try to quantify the IQ of someone more intelligent than yourself then you would have to devise a question that you don't have the intelligence to work out the answer to, so can't know with certainty whether the answers are right or not.

Hope that made sense i is a little drunk.

Nearly everybody could answer the questions with a high degree of accuracy given enough time, the trick and the measure is doing it within a tight prescribed time frame.
 
A lot of things show the capacity for intellect. I don't place much value on "IQ" really, there's far more to intelligence than simply an IQ.

Along the same lines of logic, it's like saying some one shows the capacity to be strong, just because they're not really weak, if you get what I mean? It kinda goes without saying. There's "intelligence" and then there's intelligence that you can use and apply which makes "IQ" wholly irrelevant, in my opinion anyway. I

From what I've seen, it's just used as a means to give people something to feel good about. Me and my girlfriend both have IQs around 140, which is classed as "gifted" or higher, we both certainly wouldn't think that at all. We can both make usage of and apply our intelligence well, that's where I'd say "intelligence" is important.

What you place value on or not is irrelevant to the actual test, I am not referring to the internet 'what's your IQ' tests, or the Mensa testers which hold little to no value and which I am sure many here are basing their 'IQ' scores on, either that or OCuk has more genius level members than all the High IQ Societies combined.

If you sit a specific invigilated bank of IQ examinations which are universally recognised, like the Cattell Fair or Stanford-Binet then you can safely state that the resulting score is fairly accurate as a measure of your ability to acquire and apply knowledge and your potential to reason with abstract ideas and solve complex and abstract problems.

Simply stating your IQ is 146 is meaningless without stating which test and in what environment it was taken.

An invigilated Mensa Score of 146 is 8 points above their accepted current entrance requirement by the scale they use.

The confusion here is our differing application of the word 'Intelligence' when referring to IQ.

I am not referring to their proven ability, or their 'common sense' or even their 'knowledge' , simply their raw potential for intelligence.

I agree there are many factors which make up someone's intellect or more accurately, their knowledge, education notwithstanding, but as a raw indication of human potential solely related to their mental capacity a valid invigilated IQ test administered on a recognised scale is a valid measurement.
 
Probably not, but then you're only cheating yourself. :p

Judging by the sort of person who takes internet iq tests and brags about them i wouldn't put it past em :p




An invigilated Mensa Score of 146 is 8 points above their accepted current entrance requirement by the scale they use.

or 2 points below requirement on a cattell. :p
 
I am not referring to their proven ability, or their 'common sense' or even their 'knowledge' , simply their raw potential for intelligence.

But that's what I'm saying, I don't believe that to be the case, it just means you're good at IQ tests.
"Raw intelligence" I see as being quite a vague statement.

I agree there are many factors which make up someone's intellect or more accurately, their knowledge, education notwithstanding, but as a raw indication of human potential solely related to their mental capacity a valid invigilated IQ test administered on a recognised scale is a valid measurement.

A high IQ can sometimes indicate a high level of intelligence, but the presence of a high IQ isn't required to have a high level of intelligence. The way I see it, IQ tests are more of "what you are not" rather than what you are.

Like a "not short" test, just because you don't get labeled as short, doesn't mean you are tall, you're just verifiably not short. A high IQ may mean you're intelligent, but it doesn't mean you are.
 
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Judging by the sort of person who takes internet iq tests and brags about them i wouldn't put it past em :p






or 2 points below requirement on a cattell. :p
I can't remember which ones and where I took them, it was quite a while ago now, but I've done a few of them from different places out of curiosity.

Uhh, I could've sworn you asked me which ones I took. :confused:
 
Very true, I'm inclined to believe those that go all the way to being in Mensa really are just trying to show off, I see it as highly lame really.

Only if they shout about it from the roof tops, if they keep it to themselves then there is no showing off (obviously the op fails at this point).
 
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