Soldato
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Incident outside parliament in london - developing now
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/educati...ools-where-English-is-not-first-language.html
and on another article I saw
Why these parents don't speak english? took me like 3-6months to self learn basic German with the internet at a level where I can understand most of what is being said.
seems there is to much interpreters in this country so they likely don't bother to try and learn english or don't see it as that important when the government or local councils are happily to assist them every step of the way.
Caporegime
Being bred out of existence - The long game.
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That's happening in Germany right now. Migrant birthrate is higher then real Germans, it's also an absurd number, like 52% or something. (I'm looking for the correct figures)
Don
The longer term issue with this is that these muslim children will never catch up and thus have lower educational attainment by the time they're adults. What does that mean? Lower likelihood of employment, higher risk of criminality and resentment at wider society who won't accept them. Not a good cocktail mix.
Soldato
Percentages are meaningless when the ethnic group make up such a small percentage of the overall population.
For example every gray female rabbit could give birth, and only a third of black female rabbits. Percentage wise the grey ones seem to be doing better but if there's only 5 female grey rabbits for every 100 black ones it's irrelevant.
In the UK in 2016, the last ONS available white British live births outnumbered every other ethnicity combined by a factor of 2.5. 65% Vs 35% of everyone else combined, the next largest group was white other at about 12.5%. Note figures exclude figures where parent ethnicity is not stated.
Bred out of existence isn't possible at current rates, in fact it's the exact opposite.
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Soldato
Caporegime
There's projected statistics on population for both arguments so it's pointless. Pick a side, I'll be dead in 50 years so I don't care.
I'll add if the average couple are having 2 kids that's stagnation. Zero pop. Growth
If Mohamad has 4 wives and 6 kids with each. That doesn't take many generations.
What we need to do is fund benefit scroungers and encourage single white council estate mothers to breed harder.
Now you understand that the previous 25 years of political leadership and direction all makes sense.
I'll add if the average couple are having 2 kids that's stagnation. Zero pop. Growth
If Mohamad has 4 wives and 6 kids with each. That doesn't take many generations.
What we need to do is fund benefit scroungers and encourage single white council estate mothers to breed harder.
Now you understand that the previous 25 years of political leadership and direction all makes sense.
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indeed but London now has only 45% white British people so given that minorities tedn to group together on a local basis it certainly does happen.
Soldato
Oh absolutely areas will differ, the stats are an average nationally. But given the ratios it can only happen in a rather few select areas. For the vast majority of folk it's so small a percentage it barely registers
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Ah, the Windrush generation. Never got citizenship, never bothered to try, yet years later the government is forced to apologise abjectly and hand out large amounts of money in compensation for daring to question the right to live here...
Most of those are on benefits though. Outbred by chavs.
Its not about breeding though its about rates of immigration when that far exceeds the birthrate then you see what you see in London. How long before the tipping point and they decide that the country they moved into doesn't represent them? What gives that the right to tell what they should and shouldn't do? When the native population is the minority who says their language and culture should be the dominant one?
The immigrant population is expanding elsewhere around here a non white face was a rare one several years its becoming much more common now.
Soldato
Ah, the Windrush generation. Never got citizenship, never bothered to try, yet years later the government is forced to apologise abjectly and hand out large amounts of money in compensation for daring to question the right to live here...
Most of those are on benefits though. Outbred by chavs.
Its not about breeding though its about rates of immigration when that far exceeds the birthrate then you see what you see in London. How long before the tipping point and they decide that the country they moved into doesn't represent them? What gives that the right to tell what they should and shouldn't do? When the native population is the minority who says their language and culture should be the dominant one?
The immigrant population is expanding elsewhere around here a non white face was a rare one several years its becoming much more common now.
I was responding to a post that claimed white British are being bred out, not anything do do with immigration figures. Facts are in 2016, 470k white British babies were born Vs around 20k Bangladesh and Pakistani each. There's no figures for middle Eastern as it's so insignificant it's bundled in with "others"
I posted the following earlier in the thread......
And don't forget the immigration figure is a net figure. A considerable amount of UK citizens emigrate every year so the actual demographic change in the UK is considerably higher then the 248,000 net migrants for that year.
The immigrants and mothers of thoose children not born of UK born mother obviously come from a diverse range of countries and cultures themselves.
None the less I suggest the UK establishment has allowed for an absolutely disastrous situation to develop from the point of view of successfully integrating new arrivals in a generation or two into a wider semi cohesive UK society. Especially considering the tendency of some of thoose new arrivals to cluster in groups in limited geographical areas of the country.
Soldato
You've added immigration figures in to the argument which wasn't the argument I was refuting. It was simply that we aren't being bred out of existence, nothing more.
But immigrants (and emigration) still change the demographics....
Its a demonstrable fact that currently the demographic change of this country are lead by immigration and the children of first generation migrants.
Soldato
I disagree, white British births outnumber every other birth combined by a huge margin, white births by an even bigger one. Even taking into account migration figures it's still relatively evens and white British has an absolute massive population figure advantage. It would take a period of sustained zero births by white British combined with current immigration figures before it was anywhere near comparable.
Your figures above show white births at 556k Vs population growth of 1.02m, more than half.
But I don't refute demographics change or some areas have suffered more than others. My point was that we aren't being bred out of existence.
Your figures above show white births at 556k Vs population growth of 1.02m, more than half.
But I don't refute demographics change or some areas have suffered more than others. My point was that we aren't being bred out of existence.
Yes I am well well aware of that hence why I talked about demographic change including migration. If you take the incoming first generation migrant numbers the figure for new migrant and their children is well over half the 'additional' population added to the UK each year.
'white' British only (currently) vastly outnumber other groups due to a large contingent of older 'white' people.
In a generation or two 'white' British peoples numbers will be significantly reduced, as a percentage of the overall total and will inevitably become just another minority group in an increasingly balkanised nation.
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