Indian Grand Prix 2012, New Delhi - Race 17/20

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20097576

Ferrari have brought several new parts to this race as they seek to stem Red Bull's advance, including a modified front wing, brake ducts, rear wing and a revised diffuser.

Alonso lost the lead of the championship to Vettel at the last race in Korea, which was the Red Bull driver's third win in a row.

On the race-simulation runs later in the session, the Red Bulls and Alonso looked evenly matched.

Vettel set the fastest lap in race trim but it came after a slow lap that would have allowed the tyres to recover.

Alonso's fastest race-simulation lap was more than 0.3 secs slower but he had not given the tyres a rest beforehand.

The fastest race-run overall was Alonso's - his average lap time was 0.2 secs quicker than Vettel's, with Lotus's Kimi Raikkonen third fastest on average followed by Hamilton. But it is difficult to know how much to read into the times as the teams do not reveal their fuel loads.
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So what you reckon? Do you think the Ferrari is fastest over a race or the RB?
 
Senna seems to be consistantly up there at the moment... He could really do with a good result tomorrow.

Not sure anyone will be getting close to the Red Bulls though.
 
Cavallino said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20097576

So what you reckon? Do you think the Ferrari is fastest over a race or the RB?
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Red Bull, by a mile, the average time means nothing as cars did silly laps to hide pace. Hamilton for instance was doing laps mostly faster than Alonso from what I recall but while they were 6.5-7.5 off the fastest single lap pace on the long run, he threw in the odd 10 second off the pace lap, then right back on pace. Most drivers did this, ALonso was really the only one not doing that so the average means not much at all.

The worrying thing was Hamilton and Alonso managed to do multiple laps just under the, iirc a 1:37, while Vettel was just above then right at the death Vettel just put in a low 1:36 neither of them could touch.

Of course there is a chance Vettel has to go slower to get the same tyre life and going faster might cost him in strategy but, I doubt it. Despite the "zomg, you're too fast, your tyre will explode" hyperbole last week if anything the Red bull was best on its tyres, they were talking out their arse, no problem with their tyres at all.

All season when Red bull or Mclaren have been "on it", Ferrari haven't been close, Ferrari picked up so many points when either of Hamilton or Vettel didn't finish and gained almost every single time while no other driver would gain as much. IE Vettel goes out but Hamilton gets 10th, but Alonso goes from second to first and a huge points gain. I seriously doubt the Ferrari will be anywhere near if the Red Bull is as good as it looks. It will take a minor miracle to make that Ferrari a top speed pole capable car.
 
deuse said:
Morning all :)

I hope Mclaren have get it together this weekend.
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its too early for the crack pipe, no chance :p
I'd like to see Mclaren do well and I think it would be quite nice for Hamilton to get a win before he leaves, a final farewell to Mclaren before the season finishes.... lets be honest, there only chance of a win is a Vettel DNF(probably Webber and maybe Alonso as well :p ), even if they get the speed, they'll **** it up somewhere in the race.

I wish that was hyperbole and Mclaren screwing up was only a slim chance, there is just no trust there that they can win if the car was capable of it.

Guerrilla said:
Senna seems to be consistantly up there at the moment... He could really do with a good result tomorrow.

Not sure anyone will be getting close to the Red Bulls though.
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Would be quite good, was Senna flying around on softs though? I wasn't really paying attention to who was doing what but Williams sometimes pop up looking insanely competitive then you realise they're on softs. I think it was last race Maldonado going 2nd or something in Q1 quite early in, then you realise they were the first team on softs and it wasn't that good :p
 
Hamilton's car looked a right hand full :(
rb 0.5sec faster again..wonder what illegal part they got on this weekend?
 
drunkenmaster said:
Would be quite good, was Senna flying around on softs though? I wasn't really paying attention to who was doing what but Williams sometimes pop up looking insanely competitive then you realise they're on softs. I think it was last race Maldonado going 2nd or something in Q1 quite early in, then you realise they were the first team on softs and it wasn't that good :p
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His final time was on softs, but he seemed to be hovering around the top 5 pretty much most of the morning. Hopefully not just a fluke but we'll have to see when it matters.
 
deuse said:
Hamilton's car looked a right hand full :(
rb 0.5sec faster again..wonder what illegal part they got on this weekend?
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He looked pretty good till right at the end, he was fast in the earlier part of the session, 2 tenths off Vettel and ahead of Webber/Button, but when they went out again he looked a bit slower then that slide at the end, did make me wonder if something once again broke with the right rear suspension somewhere.
 
P3 results. Managed to listen to last 30 mins on the radio.


Code: 
[b]Pos  Driver              Team/Car              Time       Gap       Laps[/b]
 1.  Sebastian Vettel    Red Bull-Renault      1m25.842s            20
 2.  Jenson Button       McLaren-Mercedes      1m26.034s  + 0.192s  17
 3.  Mark Webber         Red Bull-Renault      1m26.108s  + 0.266s  18
 4.  Lewis Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes      1m26.151s  + 0.309s  21
 5.  Kimi Raikkonen      Lotus-Renault         1m26.209s  + 0.367s  22
 6.  Bruno Senna         Williams-Renault      1m26.214s  + 0.372s  24
 7.  Fernando Alonso     Ferrari               1m26.521s  + 0.679s  15
 8.  Nico Hulkenberg     Force India-Mercedes  1m26.531s  + 0.689s  21
 9.  Michael Schumacher  Mercedes              1m26.652s  + 0.810s  21
10.  Romain Grosjean     Lotus-Renault         1m26.664s  + 0.822s  21
11.  Felipe Massa        Ferrari               1m26.691s  + 0.849s  13
12.  Pastor Maldonado    Williams-Renault      1m27.140s  + 1.298s  18
13.  Sergio Perez        Sauber-Ferrari        1m27.162s  + 1.320s  21
14.  Paul di Resta       Force India-Mercedes  1m27.193s  + 1.351s  22
15.  Nico Rosberg        Mercedes              1m27.229s  + 1.387s  21
16.  Daniel Ricciardo    Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m27.374s  + 1.532s  21
17.  Jean-Eric Vergne    Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m27.711s  + 1.869s  20
18.  Kamui Kobayashi     Sauber-Ferrari        1m27.983s  + 2.141s  19
19.  Heikki Kovalainen   Caterham-Renault      1m29.035s  + 3.193s  20
20.  Vitaly Petrov       Caterham-Renault      1m29.237s  + 3.395s  20
21.  Timo Glock          Marussia-Cosworth     1m29.617s  + 3.775s  20
22.  Charles Pic         Marussia-Cosworth     1m30.298s  + 4.456s  20
23.  Narain Karthikeyan  HRT-Cosworth          1m30.824s  + 4.982s  22
24.  Pedro de la Rosa    HRT-Cosworth          1m30.873s  + 5.031s  22


lol at this

uWEUe.gif
 
Just got up and very hangover.

At least P3 was closer but Vettel will surely be on pole :(


Massa gif is very funny :D
 
I just flicked it on. What the bloody hell does Kimi have on his face! It's not a ski race!
 
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